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A Boxful of Demons

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  • Started 2 years ago by boomer former helm
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  1. stereosofa
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    It's unfuckingbelievable expensive. The simple 2CD / BluRay variant should cost over 80, - €, vinyl editions over 140,-€. I see resentment rising in me, disappointment, pain. As much as I would like that, I'm out of it. 😠😢
    STOP THAT LIMITED-SUPER-DELUXE-MADNESS!

    I hope for a very simple, affordable edition for underprivileged Psychonauts.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. Netsrak
    Member

    It's still itching. Of course.
    But is seems that this might end up being the first MP-special-thingy that I won't buy.
    146€ plus shipping and customs is insane.
    Really bummed to miss the Bluray of the concert though, but there's lots of other cool stuff that can be done with that money.
    Listen to me - am I actually saying that? Skipping a cool MP-release?

    Well - there's a first for everything.
    Insane!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. naur
    Member

    It's not only the 2CD/Bluray. The Price with the books is okay for a limeted edition, i think. But i'am from Germany and i don't speak norwegian. And shipping are international 40 Euro (!). So, thats my Problem. I wish i was norwegian.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. Netsrak
    Member

    I hope for a very simple, affordable edition for underprivileged Psychonauts

    Underprivileged?
    I'd call that: reasonable!

    Would definitely love to see that Bluray happen on it's own. But that would on the other hand be kind of against the special-limited-crowd-funding-thought in it, wouldn't it?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Netsrak
    Member

    It's not only the 2CD/Bluray. The Price with the books is okay for a limeted edition, i think. But i'am from Germany and i don't speak norwegian. And shipping are international 40 Euro (!). So, thats my Problem. I wish i was norwegian. [:mrgreen:]

    Does anybody have a clue why it is three books?

    And: true!
    If I knew that I'd get three cool books that I could read on my own. Without google translate. Then it would make it seem less costly.

    Actually the time I bought the Blissard book (in norwegian) it was my choice: do I want that thing for collecting reasons. But here, as it is linked to the release of an awesome historically relevant concert on both audio and video - it's really a shame that you can only get it together with three books where I know nothing about the contents. And will have a hard time finding out once I have them.

    PLEASE CREATE A RELEASE WITHOUT THE BOOKS!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. johnerik
    Member

    It's not traditional books but pamphlets.

    From the press release:

    The opportunity to bash their literary and musical minds together came about in relation to the Demon Box-perfomance at The Slottsfjell festival. As Lars and Morgenbladet-journalist (Norwegian weekly paper) Marius Lien ended up in eager discussion about beat poets, Motorpsycho and Ken Kesey (the author of the Demon Box-essay collection from 1986) psychodelikks and what-have-you-not after the show: According to legend Ken Kesey marched into the offices of his publishers demanding his next book to be presented as ”pamphlets in a box”, instead of the traditional hardbound page-to-page format. Viking Press didn’t approve much of the idea, but Falck Forlag, Motorpsycho and Lars Ramslie did. So we just nicked it, added a bunch of records and a film, so here you have it, the most naked lunch ever: A Boxful of Demons

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. cjacob
    Member

    Maby we got a simple version without the book later..I dont know..... But Some of us REeeEALY want this LIMITED-SUPER-DELUXE-MADNESS!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. harry
    Member

    'But is seems that this might end up being the first MP-special-thingy that I won't buy.'

    Same here. I'm repeating others here, but:

    - why no version without books when it's in Norwegian only?
    - why 40 euros shipping?
    - why blu ray and not regular DVD?

    Without the book, a CD/DVD package could cost €40, including LP's €75. I would go for one of those definitely. If shipping would be around €15 that is.

    And this signed certificate that apparantly is worth €30,-. What the heck? We are psychonauts, not groupies. This is stuff mainly interesting for traders. Dissapointing..

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. ThorEgil
    Member

    Shipping from Norway IS expensive.

    According to posten.no a parcel to EU (1 Kg) costs €37. And the box is probably heavier.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. Punj Lizard
    Member

    Yep. This seems overpriced. But they made the funding in quick time so congratulations. Hopefully they'll make enough from the funding to consider releasing the CDs and BluRay as standard releases for those of us who are neither collectors/completists, nor Norwegian-speaking.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. mister conclusion
    Member

    And this signed certificate that apparantly is worth €30,-. What the heck? We are psychonauts, not groupies.

    About the "prices": Yes, they are extremely high and it is a pity that they are way too expensive for many of the psychonauts.

    Then again, this is crowdfunding, not a usual purchase. They are collecting money so they can realize this project, even if it is a very limited edition. So by participating in this crowdfunding one can support this project. And the stuff you get in the end is a kind of reward for doing this. In this way, you don't pay 30 € to get a signed certificate but you give them some more money and get the certificate as an extra "thank you". It is some kind of a teaser to give more money, not a "price". Otherwise it would be totally irrational to pay NOK 10.000 for the Deluxe-package.

    It is still a pity that you can't get a bookless version, but the books are the reason for the whole project, the rest is addons. Complicated...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. naur
    Member

    I think it is a nice gift when you are norwegian. And it's a norwegian band and a norwegian writer. That's the way it is.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. ThorEgil
    Member

    A interview with Bent, in - ehh - Norwegian, where he even mentions VOW. Time has past.
    http://www.itromso.no/feedback/intervju/2018/02/02/«Det-var-jo-egentlig-bare-lek-og-forskning-vi-drev-på-med»-16010842.ece

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. Netsrak
    Member

    Let me think mean for just a second - just to heat things up a little more...
    (and to get that darkness out of my soul)

    If the books are the main reason for the whole funding (and it is hard to doubt, since the text says that pretty clearly) - then let's see which reward will be the last to go:
    the ones with audio/video or the one with just the books.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. otherdemon
    Member

    Yeah!

    I agree with those who say that the various versions look a tad expensive, but at least there are several versions for each price level.

    Not sure which version I'll go for yet, but I have 32 days to decide

    EDIT: I'll probably also skip the postage and pick it up @ the Deichmanske release-party.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. kak
    Member

    - why blu ray and not regular DVD?

    I hate to be that guy, but the Blu-ray format is more than 10 years old, and it has better video AND audio quality than DVD. At this point in time you can also get BD-players at any price point or even second hand.

    And before someone compares it to LP/CD; CD was never better than LP, just more convenient.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. gyankumar
    Member

    Three books, 3 vinyls and CD’s/BlueRay/DVD for 165,-€ incl. shipping is a bargain. We got so spoiled with MP releases and concerts in the last 10 years. 5CD boxes for 25,-€, limited 7” editions, Tour LP, vinyl only album, Effenaar aniversary release, books, theatric soondtrack and much more....
    I can’t believe there is a discussion about the price of this amaizing box. Don’t wanna spent money on it; don’t buy it. I know that All the money gets back into the music anyway.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. Netsrak
    Member

    @gyankumar

    where do you live?
    Maybe it really boils down to "privileged" and "underprivileged" psychonauts...
    But 165 is surely not the end. 145+30+19% customs is rather just above 200€.
    Alright, the creator cannot be help responsible for where I chose to live, but still: too much for me.
    And since the books are pamphlets I am really curious to see how relevant they are.
    Nice to have for sure and the whole Kesey-connotation is cool, but not worth the price for me.

    And before I say it another time I better quit.
    (I guess I say it that often just to assure myself I am actually skipping the release )

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. supernaut
    Member

    Yep it seems expensive but it's 3 LP, 2 CD, a Bluray, books and shipping. And it's Demon Box! So take my money!

    I spent more cash on traveling to one show including accomodation and ramsacking the merch table. Bit bummed, though, that it's a bluray and no DVD...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. supernaut
    Member

    if only there was some magical home use software solution to convert bluray to dvd...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. Netsrak
    Member

    OT: http://www.makemkv.com/

    Not converting to DVD as in: physical media. But you get a lossless file that you can play on your pc/mac.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. supernaut
    Member

    that's all i need.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. Emelic
    Member

    I can't afford it. The vinyl edition and shipping it's almost half of my monthly paycheck.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. supernaut
    Member

    gyankumar

    I know that All the money gets back into the music anyway.

    superb point!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. Yeah, vinyl, BlueRay and CD is all the same content and for non-norwegians the books won't be readable... About what should the book be? About demon box? The listeners all have their own stories about that album, why writing about it? But ok, maybe the author did a nice job, so it's worth releasing. Still won't buy it either, to get the audio from the DVD can be done with any freeware or just by giving a download code with the vinyl and sell it for maybe 1/2 the price...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. Bartok
    Member

    The books are about Motorpsycho, in the period before, during and after the recording of DB, with I suppose a lot of digressions and insights, judging from Ramslies great contribution in Supersonic Scientists. I'm sure they will be well worth reading, esp for us who enjoy those sorts of things. And the records speak for themselves. And the BOX looks great, with a lot of price-options so I don't see why this is a problem, look at what you will be getting! And I'm sure most people can find a way to play a Blue Ray. It's not like MP are out to hustle their fans, on the contrary, what a surprise, and what a gift. Also happy to read Bents thoughts on those concerts, and the magic of the Geb/Bent/Snah/Helge constellation, it really was a special time, and they were really in sync w the culture, and helped define it, whatever Bent might think;)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. Karius
    Member

    I have supported the band since that day in the early 90s that I bought the Lobotomizer LP for 120kr at the local record store.
    Now I am in my 40s, have a job, wife, kids, steady income etc.. so there`s no problem with buying this box, its just the feeling that Im being cheated. Why do I have to pay so much? and why fill it with with shit I dont want? A tripple vinyl box would be enough.

    I just want a record to play, not a stupid displaybox that will take up way to much space on my already cramped vinylshelfs.

    -"Its not like MP are out to hustle their fans"

    Sorry, but this time, I think that, if not MP, then Christer Falk are making a huge profit on this box.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. mefisto
    Member

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. Tomcat
    Member

    I wonder if there is a chance to have those books translated to English (and printed) now that nearly 200% of the money is funded already on day two. Would be a great investment for everyone

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. Punj Lizard
    Member

    I wrote above that I think it's a bit overpriced. Then again, so is Konsert For Folk Flest but I bought that because the music is awesome and so is the whole package. I'm not such a fan of Demon Box but any time the band make a good profit on something I won't complain because it seems to me they put way more of that back into the music than most bands would. So if a bit of extra cash leads to another album and another tour then I'm happy.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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