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INTO THE MAELSTROM documentary (2019)

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  • Started 8 months ago by ffbernie
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  1. mister conclusion
    Member

    Bernie, this is just fantastic. I enjoyed every moment and it is astonishing, how professional and perfect everything looks and sounds. Great interviews. Everybody who is not convinced after seeing this just isn't worth Motorpsycho. A masterpiece!

    My only "complaint" would be that it just ends so early. I could have watched more of this. This can of course be fixed once you have published the 4h+ Director's Cut?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  2. ffbernie
    Member

    dear mister conclusion...thank you for the kind words. I spent a whole year working on it almost every day ...so Im pretty sick of it now so no directors cut just yet :-)x bernie

    Posted 8 months ago #
  3. Space Trucker
    Member

    Absolutely amazing stuff.
    The passion behind this gives a new meaning to being a diehard fan..

    Posted 8 months ago #
  4. ffbernie
    Member

    @space trucker : arent we all diehard fans

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. pfnuesel
    Member

    This is easily the best documentary I have ever seen.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. ffbernie
    Member

    @pfneusel : that seems a bit over the top but thank you x bernie

    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. supernaut
    Member

    so here's a quote:

    Hans at the 38min mark:
    "we're still learning how to play, sing and write, a continuous learning process. As long as you have that spirit and the will to experiment, then it doesn't settle into something stale. And we still have immense fun struggling to make our music come through."

    So good news: there's probably quite a few years of music and juice left in the band. But where haven't they been yet? How much is there left to explore? Of course experimentation or rather free form jammin is endless by nature. Will the realization of having made everything (possible) be the end of the band? Or - which seems more important the way Hans said - when the fun's gone? Well according to the film, that day seems to be way off.

    ---

    @bernie: sorry to ask again, maybe you haven't seen me doing so the first time around: Did you present the finished movie to them for some sort of reviewing before releasing?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. ThorEgil
    Member

    Where haven't they been yet?
    Well, Bent is an avid and very knowledgeable jazz fan so I asked him once – When will we get the first acoustic jazz album from Motorpsycho? He claimed being unable to play the double bass, but I'm sure one day it is bound to happen. One day.

    They haven't been that hard into rap or hip hop yet either, but I somehow feel that I can wait a little longer for that album.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. ffbernie
    Member

    @SUPERNAUT : lets just say nobody enjoyes looking at themselves...they agreed to do be interviewed as long as I did my thing with it and didnt present it as an "official" story/history of MP which was fine by me. They were extremely open and forthcoming during the interviews which is the biggest reason the film works and is full of warmth and life. Neither did they interfere with or asked about the editing. They hinted that any interference might make it less authentic and stressed that they wanted to see "my take" on their story. such nice people ...dream subjects I would say

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. Johnny_Heartfield
    Member

    @ ThorEgil: The day they release their first rap or hip hop album I'll burn my Motorpsycho collection! Or better buy my first Hip Hop album instead

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. Ratmaus
    Member

    Beastie Boys og Cypress Hill er to rapnavn som dras fram. Aphex Twins er det eneste technonavnet de vil godkjenne. Snah synes annen techno blir for statisk - i hvert fall live. Han får bifall fra Bent:

    Techno har jeg ikke fått fot for enda. Jeg skjønte heller aldri Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk og de gruppene der. Det har skorta på tid og lyst til å utforske dette skikkelig. Og nå da jeg oppdaga Sebadoh for noen uker sia... Men jeg ligger jo alltid noen år etter, så om to år oppdager jeg sikkert techno.

    BEAT, 1994.

    Per i dag er det ingen breakbeat i dette bandet, men vi vil ikke holde dørene stengt for de tingene der. Jævlig mye innen Hip-Hop-Funk er bra, elementer som godt kunne ha passet inn i det vi holder på med. Men det har det ennå ikke gjort.

    Bent to Puls, 1995. Well, they’re not exactly rushing to it ...

    Posted 8 months ago #
  12. JERO
    Member

    ...hophipping and rapping? Good grieve. The beastie boys they are not. I'm eagerly awaiting results of that Stravinsky and other modern-classical composers influence, though! With their talent for awe-inspiring melodies and power build-ups without bombast that could bring them even beyond the courts of the progrock kings!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  13. supernaut
    Member

    Star Dancer vs Car Cancer?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  14. Ratmaus
    Member

    @supernaut: That’s the closest they’ll ever get, I guess. Wouldn’t mind more oddballs like that one, though!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  15. Punj Lizard
    Member

    I know this is off topic, but following the comments above...

    I'd love to hear an album leaning more heavily on acoustic folk but with some electric thrown in - e.g. Led Zep III, After the Goldrush, If I Could Only Remember My Name ....

    I also reckon they could record a brilliant boogie album along the lines of T.Rex's Electric Warrior or some ZZ Top. Or a funk rock album (Funk 99 already proves this).

    How about some kosmische/krautrock?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  16. Johnny_Heartfield
    Member

    @ Punj Lizard: Those three acoustic-electric albums have probably already influenced a large part of MP's earlier work - take Blissard or Trust Us. So this course would be a kind of retrograde movement - but I'd love it. I also wonder what a whole Motorpsycho cover album of Roy Harper's Stormcock would sound like

    Posted 8 months ago #
  17. Oakej
    Member

    THANK YOU! Beautiful documentary! Had to log in first time in a long while just to thank you!!!
    Summed up the essence of what makes motorpsycho such a unique fantastic band! Great performances too and just great interviews and insight into the bands way of working and their thoughts on what music is. I liked the jazz references very much and am into the idea of time and space disappearing in the cloud of creative flow where creation seemingly just happens when musicians interlink. mp has always had that energy of making this happen, again and again taking songs to new levels (or other physical places as snah put it). That's what I love about them!
    Thanks for the doc one last time!

    ---on the trip since 2000

    Posted 8 months ago #
  18. Bartok
    Member

    @Oakey : Good to have you back! Agree totally with your comment.

    @Punj : Couldn’t agree more. They would NAIL it. A real acoustic folkish piece, I’m sure that’s on they’re bucket list. I hope so.

    Regarding kraut I always found a Neu influence on Überwagner (I guess also reflected in the title?) or maybe it’s just me. But I’d def love them to explore this side more, hm, dreaming. I’m exited about the new project though, the one after this latest Tower installment, I think this will point the direction ahead, at least for the next few years.

    And, regarding the topics above: this band never ceases to spoil us. It’s never ending, and I’m 100% sure they’re in it for the long run, they’re still sonic scientists and the muse seems to be ever present. Thank God or some Space Deity for that!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  19. ffbernie
    Member

    @oakey : thanks man glad you enjoyed it

    Posted 8 months ago #
  20. mybestfriend83
    Member

    Really a great Rockumentary with deep Feelings precisly formulated.
    I hate growing older too...
    Please never be deaf all of you..
    Great Film and nice slow motion.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  21. ffbernie
    Member

    @mybestfriend83 : thanks for the comments..;appreciate it

    Posted 8 months ago #
  22. Smarti333s
    Member

    Enjoyed this very much. Thanks for making and sharing this.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  23. Punj Lizard
    Member

    @Johnny- Haha, I don't hear that at all in Blissard or Trust Us, I'll listen with different ears next time 🙂

    @bartok- I absolutely agree regarding Uberwagner.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  24. shakti
    Member

    I've always heard lots of krauty influences in Motorpsycho, but not always that overtly. There's the cover of Halleluwah of course, but more typically it's in the hypnotic, repetitive space sections in songs like K9. The motorik beat is certainly there in Uberwagner. Lastly, for some reason I've always felt that there's a lot of Manuel Göttsching in Snah's playing, but that might be just in my imagination.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  25. Such a great movie - really really well done. Enjoyed every second!

    I always hear lots of kraut in Alchemyst, the robotic drum beat, combined with a little Sonic Youth maybe.
    Apropos but off topic: Catched Thurston Moore Group some weeks ago here in Munich - they absolutely totally blew the roof off! Best gig ever since MP last year.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  26. Ratmaus
    Member

    Re: the "what next?" discussion, I just had an epiphany: I would really, really love to hear a collaboration between Motorpsycho and Huun-Huur Tu (or Alash for that matter!). I just listened to Big Black Dog back to back with Tandym (they're in the same key and everything). How great wouldn't it be to hear those wonderful voices and sounds of Tuva backed by the "oomph" of MP?

    Huun-Huur Tu: Tandym
    Motorpsycho: Big Black Dog

    Oh well, maybe it's just me.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  27. Hans Boller
    Member

    Wow Bernie, you're my hero! I feel really bad for watching all your videos without paying anything for your work. You should release some of your work as a DVD (with the band's permission, of course) so we don't get to ride along for free all the time! Thanks a ton, man, this documentary really is a treat!

    Even though I'm a huge geek having spent hours and hours just reading MP interviews and deep dives from way back when, I still learnt something new and found a longstanding suspicion validated:

    - Finally there's proof that MP where thinking of Helmet when they wrote Feedtime and the other groove rockers! Hell yes!

    - I never knew that Snah wanted to be a shredder! But is makes sense, since he named Malmsteen as one of his favourite guitarists two decades ago (can’t really understand why…) It’s so weird to imagine him being disappointed in his own skills and starting from scratch. But I totally get why that would be a disheartening experience. When you see the Eddie Van Halens of the world shredding along while barely looking at the fretboard, it’s easy to feel like a total loser, happened to me as well. I think that his example is really encouraging, for he made up for his lack of technical skill with great songwriting and extremely emotional, dirty and at the same time melodic soloing. It’s great to see that your heroes struggled with the same problems.

    I also have a few questions regarding the editing: Why did you use the clip of the band playing Waiting for the One after the story of their first meeting? What about the clip of Feedtime after Bent’s remark about boring metal from the eighties? To give MP’s idea of “unboring” metal?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  28. ffbernie
    Member

    @hans : glad you enjoyed it. Waiting for thé one because it radiates thé joy of two young guys writing together for thé first time and feedtime for exactly thé reason you stated 😁

    Posted 7 months ago #
  29. Rune
    Member

    Bernie, thank you very much for this!! It's excellent! When you mentioned it in Paard you didn't seem too sure when you'd get it out there, but man you've been busy, and you've done a fantastic job! I love it!
    It's not always easy to find the right words to explain to people why I keep going to these shows again and again and again and again, and now I won't have to. I'll just share your movie. This is why.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  30. ffbernie
    Member

    @RUNE : hey thanks for the compliment man. Glad you enjoyed it

    Posted 7 months ago #

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