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Short interview with Bent for laut.de

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  1. jtr
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    German online music mag Laut.de released a series of interviews with various musicians and concert organisers about the ongoing pandemic and its impact on them.

    Bent was interviewed as well (given the same questions as everyone else) and you can read the original German result here but I translated it for you, as well:

    LAUT.de: It looks like there wont be any concerts this year as well. Do you still have stamina for it all or are you contemplating a job change?

    BENT: Its hard, but its still manageable. Our setup allowed us some public grants, so we arent in crisis mode yet. We decided early on to stay focused: after we completed the new record last summer, we just stayed in our practice room and continued writing and recording. We dont know what will happen with that, but it gives you a purpose and helps you not to go crazy.

    LAUT.de: CTS Eventim contemplated the option to tie concert going to vaccinating. The German Ethics Council declined giving any privileges to vaccinated people. How do you stand on the topic?

    BENT: I think vaccination certificates are reasonable, so I would not have any problem with such a regulation.

    LAUT.de: Conspiracy theories are on an all-time high. Despite polls showing that a majority of the populace supports goverment measures, support for mandatory masks, vaccination efforts and hard lockdown rules are dwindling. Are opinions divided among your friends too?

    BENT: Not really. We are so incredibly annoyed by all this Trump- and Alt right-bullshit already, that we reject any new conspiracy theories by default.

    LAUT.de: What did you learn from this break in history*? Did you change as a person?

    BENT: I dont know yet. But we all saw how fragile our modern civilization is. I also know now that I can live longer with my family in a small space than I thought. But then again, I didnt have a choice anyway.

    * they used the word "Zäsur" here which is a bit hard to translate. It means break, but I think its not widely used in English, at least not in the same way.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  2. Hans Boller
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    That's some solid questioning and deep thinking right there. You either fully support all of the government's policies or you're a conspiracy theorist. There's no gray area. No debate whether a "hard lockdown" is the right answer to the pandemic, no consideration of the debate among scientists regarding that topic. Well I guess if you can do your little media job from home you've got no sympathy for all the people that are going bankrupt right now because they had to close their business and the government in Germany does not support them enough during the lockdown. Much respect!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  3. supernaut
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    thx for posting!

    "zäsur" in english... it might be something like "paradigm shift", I guess... something happens which changes everything, and the perception and handling of "what is" has to adapt to new circumstances.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  4. Punj Lizard
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    @ Hans Boller - I should think there has been an awful lot of debate among scientists but that it gets watered down to whatever the politicians decide and media interpret and what they both think the general public can understand or process as well as what the politicians think is the most effective but also easiest way of keeping the public under control.

    In the UK the government's handling has been disastrous (vaccine programme aside) but the incumbent government still manages to maintain a healthy lead in the polls because they've managed to undermine anyone who questions them by saying we should all be pulling in one direction and supporting the government at a time of emergency. Consequently both the media and the opposition have virtually stopped challenging the government or trying to hold them to account for their dreadful handling and corrupt handing out of contracts to friends, donors and relatives.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  5. Hans Boller
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    @punj: I'm not too familiar with the situation in the UK, but your assessment of BoJo's handling of the crisis does not really surprise me.

    I'm simply fed up with the part of the German media who sort any criticism of the government under the category "far-right drivel". It's not as simple as that.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  6. the conscience
    Member

    BENT: I think vaccination certificates are reasonable, so I would not have any problem with such a regulation.

    The good news is: Bent was probably too busy making music to dig deeper into the pandemic bullshit, especially about vaccines that were declared as emergency, approved in record-breaking telescopic procedures, and the potential implications for vaccination certificates.

    The bad news is: Bent was probably too busy making music to to dig deeper into the pandemic bullshit, especially about vaccines that were declared as emergency, approved in record-breaking telescopic procedures and the possible implications for vaccination certificates.

    I would now be interested to know what effects this has on a German psychonaut who is currently in the process of finishing a book and sending it to the publishers by combining the best stories from “Romaniac's Monster” https://radioromaniac.blogspot.com and the more current ones from “Radio Romaniac” https://romaniacsmonster.blogspot.com/

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. Hans Boller
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    @conscience: I don't believe that being afraid of the pandemic is "bullshit", if that is what you mean. Not wanting to be harmed by covid seems quite reasonable to me. However, I also think it's pretty questionable to demand everybody get the vaccines right now, as they're literally still being tested.

    Also, why should we accept more rights for the vaccinated as soon as everybody can get a vaccine shot? Those having already been vaccinated cannot be harmed by those refusing to get their dose. Everybody refusing to get vaccinated are of the opinion that the vaccine might be more dangerous to them than covid and I don't see anything wrong with that.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. Punj Lizard
    Member

    One could almost say nobody talks anymore, the public discourse is gone, it's ugly like never before, and binary thinking has won.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. ThorEgil
    Member

    World wide numbers:
    No. of Covid-19 cases: 117.754.621 - No. of deaths: 2.612.289 http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    No. of vaccines: 181.161.945 - No. of confirmed deaths from vaccines: 0
    http://www.vg.no/spesial/corona/vaksinering/verden/

    Claiming that "the vaccine might be more dangerous to them than covid" is just plain rubbish.
    Case closed.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. supernaut
    Member

    it's really simple:

    it's not about me
    it's not about you
    it's about us
    so shut up
    wear masks
    wash hands
    maintain distance
    get vaccinated asap

    by following those simple steps in an adult manner we'd never have had to go into lockdown. but maybe it's too simple, some people want things to be complicated and themselves to feel smarter than the rest, therefore conspiracy theories and non-acceptance of simple truths. in deep winter we wear scarfs and gloves without crying out for personal freedom.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  11. fuzzrules
    Member

    Case anything but closed; there is zero information about long term effects of the vaccine.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. the conscience
    Member

    @ Hans. No. Bullshit means Bullshit in every direction.

    @ Punj. You (and MP) are right. Look at the following comment(s)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. supernaut
    Member

    @conscience
    Bent's answer was one answer to one question at one point in time and you make a whole case around it?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. supernaut
    Member

    @fuzzrules
    so what's your proposal?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. fuzzrules
    Member

    Supernaut, I think vaccination shouldn’t be forced upon people, not directly, not indirectly.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. supernaut
    Member

    long term effects:

    What is it with those? As if we always decide on everything after thoroughly considering them. Do we start a relationship after 10 years studying its long term effects? Do we book holidays only where we've been a thousand times before? Do we buy an album only after listening to it for 5 years?

    What I mean to say is: This pandemic and the vaccination is a new thing - "zäsur" - which we are obviously challenged with mentally. We try to apply a logic behaviour and critical thinking on it which funnily enough we don't do on everything else because those everything else things we just do without second guessing due to life experiences. They're "normal".

    Also, haven't we been vaccinated against tons of sicknesses as kids? Did they ask us if we wanted that? Raped our personal freedom and integrity? Are we sad we missed a chance to get tuberculosis? Those in the past who were the first to be vaccinated without long term studies, do we salute them or laugh at their naivité?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. supernaut
    Member

    @fuzzrules
    well yes, I think it should. Because it's not a personal choice. Abortion for example is one. Or suicide. Everyone must be free to choose there. But vaccination is a community thing. Like getting a license to drive through traffic where there's people roaming around, which no one is disagreeing on, strangely enough.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. supernaut
    Member

    Another thing I've been wondering about:

    How much of this vaccination denial (or doubt) thing comes from irrational fear of needles? Not sure, just wondering, mind! A traumatic, forceful penetration of the body. So it's less about choice and personal freedom, but more of an irrational self defense reaction thingy happening based on evolution going back to our cavemen vs sabre tooth tiger heritage? What if vaccination could be done by a nice minty smelling cream applied to our elbows once every 24 years? Would it be the same drama? Don't know, just wondering...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. the conscience
    Member

    Is there a vaccination against binary thinking? This is what the whole community needs

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. supernaut
    Member

    Non-binary thinking doesn't always lead to good things per se. If we thought otherwise, we'd think binarily.

    But dammit, yet another thought just came:

    If we are talking about lack of long term studies and therefore hesitating to get vaccinated: There's the idea of a class division, vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks. They both can go about their day the way they choose to live, right? But we don't have long term studies which prove that vaccinated people are safe from gathering with non-vaccinated. Soooo.... isn't it the duty of everyone getting vaccinated?

    (yes I'm aware I somewhat contradict myself to my former post about decision-making based on long term studies, but hey, non-binary ftw! )

    Posted 1 month ago #
  21. ThorEgil
    Member

    @fuzzrules - The long term effect from death by Covid-19 is pretty clear - and permanent. The long term effect of vaccination is Motorpsycho concerts in the future again.

    Make your choice.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  22. the conscience
    Member

    @ ThorEgil, That‘s the saddest words of a psychonaut written in a long term

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. ThorEgil
    Member

    @conscience - what is sad?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. the conscience
    Member

    @ThorEgil. That you, as an intelligent human being don‘t know it

    Posted 1 month ago #
  25. ThorEgil
    Member

    @conscience - If you want to play riddles you can go somewhere else. And stuff your antivaxxer fantasies up your ass while you go.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  26. David
    Member

    What is this toxic shit doing on the Motorpsycho board instead of facebook?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  27. the conscience
    Member

    @ the newest post of ThorEgil.That actually were the saddest words of a psychonaut ever

    Posted 1 month ago #
  28. the conscience
    Member

    @ David. You are right. low level here at the moment..sorry for that

    Posted 1 month ago #
  29. suntripper
    Member

    test

    Posted 1 month ago #
  30. suntripper
    Member

    I'm being censored?

    Posted 1 month ago #

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