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The 2014 show was at the "old" Sinus. 2019 was the first time they played at the current Sinus.
Since this thread has popped back up again:
A few years ago (2012-13) I spent some time (an embarrassing amount of time, to be honest) manually adding setlists, year by year, from DAMPSABA to setlist.fm, in an attempt to gather all setlist data in one place.
I've since not paid much attention to setlist.fm, but it seems to me that it's still probably the best repository for MP live stats that we're likely to get – even if there's a few issues with the way data is presented (only counts MP, as MP+StÃ¥le Storløkken is a separate entity, snippets of songs within other songs is hard to present in a logical manner, etc.)
If some of the nerdier members of this forum (quite a few of us here, it seems) had the time, it would take only a little bit of effort from each of us to maintain this repository and keep it up to date.
About the Bremen gigs:
The first show was indeed at the Wehrschloss, a club that hosted mainly punk, hardcore and noise bands. My flatmate did catering there at the time. It was my first MP show and I've been hooked since then.
Of the 12 Schlachthof gigs, I attended 10 and missed 2 due to illness. Once maybe in 2003 and for fuck's sake this year!
@Be: Never been to Wehrschloss, and 95 was just before I got to know the band… 10/12 Schlachthof shows is quite impressive! And although this year seems to have been great again (I missed it too), you at least attended last year's already legendary 10-songs-in-150-minutes-gig! That one's definitely among my top 5 MP shows.
@TAF –> So YOU are the one I have to thank as a main source of this job I just did!
I actually used setlist.fm for most of the work, but I also checked the old DAMPSABA thing for the old times, AND my previous not-so-updated database that took info directly from this forum as soon as setlists popped up.
Unfortunately, the setlist.fm system is not the best to annotate all the variations on songs, the "medleys" and the peculiar versions and episodes from single concerts.
The best model would be, in my opinion, the phish.net model used for Phish concerts, which have some similarities in managing the setlists (though the sources for Phish are monstrously more accurate, since every single concert is recorded and spread on the net, and every single setlist is reported without any error).
If I'm not wrong, Alex "Kisshermind" Schulze opened a site trying to report MP's concerts and setlists exactly in that way… But, alas, I don't remember the name of the site, nor if it's still alive… Maybe, Alex himself could help us!
I started my personal database in 2002 or 2003 (or later) with a word file. It has now more than 240 pages and includes all tour dates and setlists including Tussler. Moreover, I asterisked (*) all the gigs which have been recorded by the audience. Unfortunately I don't have an overview about all video recordings by Bernie. They have to be added.
I have a song index for Motorpsycho and another one for Tussler, too.
I counted more than 400 different Songs which have been performed live since 1990 (see the other thread).
For this reason there were more than 55 concerts in 1993 because Motorpsycho played Berlin KOB 1993-01-29 and I know someone who recorded this Show in an occupied house in Berlin-Schöneberg. It is not listed on Dampsaba but it took place. It was organised by the same Berlin promoter who still organises Motorpsycho concerts nowadays.
In an old Dampsaba Version there were also those gigs listed but those are deleted in the current Version:
GER Salzgitter,Forellenhof 30.01.93
GER Schleswig,JUZ 31.01.93
GER Hamburg Marquee Club 01.02.93
DK Odense Rytmeposten 04.02.93
DK København Ungdomshuset 05.02.93
DK Aalborg 1000 fryd 06.02.93
Dampsaba stated "setlist not available". This sounds that those gigs took place but the band could not remember the setlists.
Can anyone remember why those gigs have been deleted?
@Jurgen – Yeah, I remember those "setlist not available" thing on the original Bob leBad's file! But I couldn't find them anymore, so I thought I imagined that… Thanks for popping them out, I'm going to update my file, even though it's a pity we have no stlists
My file includes the Berlin KOB show and its setlist, so it is in my count… Maybe something else is missing in my file.
My file is an excel file crossing gig dates and songs. It includes 405 different songs, but it lacks of Tussler stuff, which I consider a different band's stuff!
Of course I'm interested in your word file! I need as more sources as possible to complete my hard job! I'm going to email you in a minute
True! 63 shows in 1993, according to this (if my counting is correct):
https://motorpsycho.fix.no/havetravel/motorgigs/
Haven't checked/compared those other years, though. But what struck me in the first place is that the Arvika Festival gig 1996-07-19 is listed on this old site but can't be found at dampsaba. So there might be more
"the Arvika Festival gig 1996-07-19 is listed on this old site but can't be found at dampsaba."
Somehow, I have this gig in my stats. Only, I don't know the location of this Festival! Anyone can help?
Quote:The best model would be, in my opinion, the phish.net model used for Phish concerts, which have some similarities in managing the setlistsWord! Regardless if you like the band Phish or not, we definitely want something like this, i.e. a searchable database on the net. Check out the song history of the song "Tweezer", which is Phish's "K9" and tell me that you want something like this:
Tweezer overview | Tweezer history | Tweezer jam chart
Quote:If I'm not wrong, Alex "Kisshermind" Schulze opened a site trying to report MP's concerts and setlists exactly in that way… But, alas, I don't remember the name of the site, nor if it's still alive… Maybe, Alex himself could help us!It was called Motorgigs.org and I started it in 2011. It was all manual work, i.e. no database, which was impossible to maintain so I had to abandon it soon. I have not given up hope though to contribute to a comprehensive MP concert history one day. It's my big dream to channel all our efforts and all these contributions into a single outlet where one could dive deep into the concert history of MP.
Quote:Check out the song history of the song "Tweezer", which is Phish's "K9" and tell me that you want something like this:Lol Alex, Phsih.net "jam charts" are one of my favourite readings!
Actually, I can make huge use of youtube + headphones at work, and this allows me to listen to ALL the Phish concerts, loaded on the tube by the mighty "fromtheaquarium" account. Every single concert from 1990, and a big number from the eighties! Listening to them all is some experience! I'm currently listening to Paradiso, Amsterdam, 1997. A place that someone here should know, and also one of their most famous concerts… And while I curse them for NEVER EVER AGAIN touring Europe since 1998, I have to admire the level of cult they drained from their super-geeky phans! We're talking about a fanbase of tens of thousands who NEVER talk about their studio albums, but only refers to the band's repertoire exposing their thoughts on the single live version! They don't talk about the "David Bowie" song back in the days, but specifically of the "Providence Bowie" of 12-29-94 as opposed to the "Atlanta Bowie" of 10-15-94. This is a level of depths that even the most MP fanatics of us are not reaching.
Phish DataBase is a rich work on a complex platform. Phishheads in the States are rich enough to sustain very expensive concerts AND to contribute the net platforms on a voluntary basis. I have no idea of the technical issue to run a database as accurate as that one, not mentioning the relative lack of live documents to correctly annotate the setlists.
But if anyone has the time, the will and the technical skills, I'm in for some data entry!
Oh, by the way… I never connected to the fact that YOU are Alex! :DDD
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