November 29, 2021 at 09:21 #11099
I was standing directly in front of Bent at fridays Blitz gig, bathing in the stage sound. Which, as always, was absolutely sublime. Especially the bass. Holy moley, that crunchy, delicious overdriven 'clean' sound he has going on is pure caramel for the ears. Got those tubes working hard.
Anyway, got me thinking about his setup these days.
He is playing the double necks almost exclusively as far as I can tell, and is running two amps and two cabs. At Blitz he was running a Sunn-O head into an Acoustic cab, and a Hiwatt head into some other cab.
Pedals in between obviously, but I did not get a good look at the board.
The double necks have single output jacks, and I did not notice any foot switching when he changed back and forth between the guitar and bass necks, so both guitar and bass signals are going through the same signal path.
Is he simply dual amping Chris Squire style and feeding the whole signal into both amps simultanously? Perhaps some crossover/HPF/LPF to split the frequencies into each head?November 29, 2021 at 10:13 #39478
Interesting. And thanks for bringing it up. I donâ€˜t know anything, havenâ€˜t seen them for two years. All I can say is you donâ€˜t need a dedicated pedal to split the signal path. Some mono to stereo fx pedal would do just as well. So there might be a creative/hidden bass to guitar amp switching going on, or he runs everything everywhere always. That wouldnâ€˜t surprise me.
And if his Dano double neck only has one output connection, then he canâ€˜t go Chris Squire. He used a Rickenbacker with its stereo output, neck to bass amp, bridge to guitar amp.November 29, 2021 at 10:28 #39479
Ah yes. True that, about Squire. The rick-o-sound was double jacks of course. My bad.November 29, 2021 at 11:36 #39480
Arenâ€˜t you a Rick player, too? You once had one in your avatar pic, no?November 29, 2021 at 12:34 #39481
No, that was a jazz bass. Should bring that avatar back, feels naked without it.
Tried a couple of ricks through the years and could never get used to the neck to be honest. Unfortunately, because they sound greatNovember 29, 2021 at 12:41 #39482
And the secret to Chris Squire's sound? A bit of thumb along with the plectrum.November 29, 2021 at 12:48 #39483
Indeed he proudly proclaimed to be the 'inventor' of the thumb-mute with a hard attack.
Add in a proper dual amp setup with overdrive, chorus and tremolo on the treble channel into a guitar amp, and you get fairly close really.
Have experimented with a non-dual amp setup using different signal splitters to separate into two channels. It gets messy, costly, requires a euro pallet sized pedalboard and several kilometers of patch cable.
Fun though!November 29, 2021 at 12:53 #39484
Would love to make that sound! Oh, and he used brand new strings every time he played.November 29, 2021 at 12:57 #39485
This guy does a good rundown of how to get there (with modelling though): How I get my Chris Squire bass soundNovember 29, 2021 at 17:54 #39486
@TraktorBass – Well that guy knows what he's doing!
I headed over to watch Band Geek's version of Starship Trooper. I must say, that is a very impressive stab ar it. I'm just wondering whether you know what kit the drummer is playing? I'm particularly interested to know what cymbals he's using in that setting (even if – as is to be expected – they don't sound that great).November 29, 2021 at 18:59 #39487
Squier himself, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsGjl6kP0SI
There's also that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wke0eAPnvRg
The Rick necks are very diverse. I have a very thin one on my 4003 from 2010 with quite low strings' action which I like a lot. A buddy ordered also a newer 4003 model only to find it's got a baseball bat neck. I don't know if it depends on the model or the year of make. i think the 4001 are quite thin, too.
I think I remember Bent talking about prefering his bass necks to be quite thick. He wants to "work" on the notes. or something like that. His Stavem basses, which he played a lot in the Kenneth years are modeled after the Gibson non-reverse Thunderbirds. I mention this because I never touched a Stavem but that Thunderbird model in a shop. And man, as beauties as they are, that's no neck for me. Super clunky for my tiny hands.
On a humble side note. I was lucky to open for them in '97 with my band and Bent seemed to be quite smitten by my green Stingray back then when he saw and touched it (pre show chatting). A couple of years later, he played one, too. It was even green as well. See Bizarre festival 2002 on youtube. Coincidence? I'd like to think no. :mrgreen:
Whoops, I just stumbled over this https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=motorpsycho+bass+cover Never thought of looking for any of this before. There goes my evening…November 29, 2021 at 21:03 #39488
@suntripper: Yea, he gets pretty close. No idea about the cymbals.
@supernaut: I might have gotten my hands on the wrong Ricks then.
Had a Thunderbird myself years ago. My first bass. Never knew back then, but what a terrible fit for me and my tiny fingers that bass was. Neck like a tree trunk, with a dive of course. Huge chunky body. I stick to short scales these days.
Would love to try those Stavem basses. A least one of them is a medium scale if I remember correctly, so probably easier to handle. And those bisonics are amazing sounding pickups.
Surprising to see covers! Some of those guys are nailing it too. Lakland guy wailing those chords on Starmelt/Lovelight (fingerstyle even!) and Neverland guy is spot on. Cool.November 29, 2021 at 23:59 #39489
yes that lakland guy is brilliant! I'm a pick player mostly, but that's really inspring to try.
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