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  • #19008

    Wow, with those track lenghts I'm sure this will be absolutely epic!

    #19009
    fillmore
    Participant

      That opens the gates for some guessing which versions they included. Of course of biggest interest are the two jams "Bomb-proof" and "Loneliness".

      For example they played "Bomb-proof" 15 times of which 7 versions were taped. All recorded versions up to the epic Leipzig version clocked in between 9 and 12 minutes. Leipzig however clocks in 20:24 minutes, which means if they chose this version the track must include some stage banter and / or crowd noise. Unfortunately we don't know what happened in the shows they played this at before and after Leipzig.

      Here is a breakdown of shows where the songs on RWIV were played (impossible to compile without Jürgen's work!):

      The Bomb-Proof Roll & Beyond 21:04

      Tromsø, Driv 29.04.10

      Alta, City Scene 30.04.10

      Bergen, Teglverket 14.05.10

      Amsterdam, Paradiso 22.05.10

      Eindhoven, Effenaar 23.05.10

      Berlin, Astra 25.05.10

      Bremen, Schlachthof 26.05.10

      Groningen, Vera 27.05.10

      Köln, Gloria 28.05.10

      Heidelberg, Halle 02 29.05.10

      Brussels, Ancienne Belgique 30.05.10

      Wien, Arena 01.06.10

      Roma, Circolo Degli Artisti 03.06.10

      Leipzig, Conne Island 07.06.10

      Aalborg, Studenterhuset 10.06.10

      All Is Loneliness 18:45

      Frankfurt, Mousonturm 13.10.08

      Bielefeld, Forum 14.10.08

      Dresden, Beatpol 15.10.08

      Leuven, Het Depot 18.10.08

      Rotterdam, Watt 20.10.08

      Trondheim, Rosendal Kino 19.12.08 (late show)

      Luxembourg, Den Atelier 21.04.09

      Tilburg, 0 13 “Roadburn”-Festival 23.04.09

      Drammen, “Working Class Hero”-Festival 06.06.09

      Tønsberg, Slottsfjellfestivalen 16.07.09

      Nordfjordeid, “Malakoff” Rockfestival 25.07.09

      Oslo, Rockefeller 14.10.09

      Stavanger, Folken 16.10.09

      Stockholm, Debaser 29.10.09

      Berlin, Lido 01.11.09

      Haarlem, Het Patronaat 05.11.09

      Brussels, Botanique 07.11.09

      Bologna, Estragon 11.11.09c

      København, Loppen 16.11.09

      Tromsø, Driv 29.04.10

      Amsterdam, Paradiso 22.05.10

      Wien, Arena 01.06.10

      Roma, Circolo Degli Artisti 03.06.10

      Sardinia, “Duna Jam”-Festival 05.06.10

      Wishing Well 7:27

      Winterthur, Salzhaus 10.11.09

      Bologna, Estragon 11.11.09

      Milano, Trezzo Sull’adda live club 12.11.09

      Treviso (Roncade), New Age 13.11.09

      Deventer, Burgerweeshuis 15.11.09

      København, Loppen 16.11.09

      Trondheim, Verkstedhallen 18.11.09

      Alta, City Scene 30.04.10

      Landslide 9:00

      Berlin, Postbahnhof 17.05.08

      Frankfurt, Mousonturm 13.10.08

      Bielefeld, Forum 14.10.08

      Dresden, Beatpol 15.10.08

      Leuven, Het Depot 18.10.08

      Nijmegen, Doornroosje 19.10.08

      Amsterdam, Paradiso 21.10.08

      Trondheim, Rosendal Kino 19.12.08 (late show)

      Kill Devil Hills 10:09

      The Alchemyst 13:31

      (assuming they chose a version where these two were performed together as it was common in more than half of the times they played these tunes)

      Tromsø, Driv 23.04.08

      Bergen, USF Verftet 28.04.08

      Kristiansand, Kick 29.04.08

      Berlin, Postbahnhof 17.05.08

      Köln, Live Music Hall 18.05.08

      Firenze, Viper 22.05.08

      Antwerp, Hof Ter Lo 27.05.08

      Bremen, Schlachthof 30.05.0

      Ã…s, Samfunnet 04.10.08

      Tønsberg, Slottsfjellfestivalen 16.07.09

      Nordfjordeid, “Malakoff” Rockfestival 25.07.09

      Trondheim, “Pstereo”-Festival 21.08.09

      Hamar, Hydranten 13.10.09

      Oslo, Rockefeller 14.10.09

      Bergen, Verftet 17.10.09

      Stockholm, Debaser 29.10.09

      Hamburg, Uebel & Gefährlich 03.11.09

      Köln, Gebäude 9 06.11.09

      Winterthur, Salzhaus 10.11.09

      #19010
      otherdemon
      Participant

        I feel pretty confident that it's the Leipzig version of Bombproof they included. Because length-wise it fits to a tee, almost. Plus that it continues the trend of opening with tracks from Leipzig-gigs (The Other Other Fool on Roadwork 1 was recorded in Leipzig)

        #19011

        they also played AiL at Dusseldorf, Zakk 12.10.08

        #19012

        ever thought about the bombproof rolls they've performed with supersilent, last autumn if i'm not mistaken? i haven't attended those shows, but i remember seeing a video of tihs song… that's what would make the "special feature" of this performance. and holy shit, 18 minutes of loneliness? i think we need to invent a new word to capture the awesomeness of this :-)

        #19013
        TraktorBass
        Participant

          All is awesomeness

          #19014
          Elvin
          Participant

            All is awesomness

            #19015
            TraktorBass
            Participant

              .. awesomeness before me..

              #19016
              mefisto
              Participant

                wishing well was also played in stavanger dec.18th 2010

                #19017
                otherdemon
                Participant

                  Yeah it was, mefisto. But Roadwork 4 was actually made and mixed before that concert, so it doesn't count…

                  #19018
                  fillmore
                  Participant

                    Yes, but I didn't count the gigs after spring 2010 because RWIV had already been compiled then. Bent mentioned RWIV the first time in an interview in October 2010…

                    The biggest mystery is where "All is loneliness" was recorded. I remember the Haarlem 2009 version being very jammed out but when checking the recording it was only 9 minutes. Anyone who can remember seeing a close to 20 minute "All is loneliness" in concert? :-)

                    #19019

                    both rotterdam 2008 and amsterdam 2010 both were long, well over the 10 min mark, and would be great candidates for a roadwork.

                    in rotterdam AiL was the 2nd and last encore and had some magic moments in the end with excellent interaction between band (bent) and the crowd. in amsterdam, AiL closed the main set and I recall a long build-up.

                    #19020
                    otherdemon
                    Participant

                      Ok, let's use the elimination method and eliminate which AIL-versions it can't be (with help from the bootlegs where available):

                      All Is Loneliness 18:45

                      Frankfurt, Mousonturm 13.10.08 (this version is approx 10-11 mins long) ELIMINATED

                      Bielefeld, Forum 14.10.08 (this version is 11:03 long) ELIMINATED

                      Dresden, Beatpol 15.10.08

                      Leuven, Het Depot 18.10.08 (this version is 10:11 long) ELIMINATED

                      Rotterdam, Watt 20.10.08

                      Trondheim, Rosendal Kino 19.12.08 (late show) (this version is 10:32 long) ELIMINATED

                      Luxembourg, Den Atelier 21.04.09

                      Tilburg, 0 13 “Roadburn”-Festival 23.04.09

                      Drammen, “Working Class Hero”-Festival 06.06.09 (this version is 9:53 long) ELIMINATED

                      Tønsberg, Slottsfjellfestivalen 16.07.09

                      Nordfjordeid, “Malakoff” Rockfestival 25.07.09

                      Oslo, Rockefeller 14.10.09 (I attended this gig, but I can't give an exact note on how long AIL was here)

                      Stavanger, Folken 16.10.09

                      Stockholm, Debaser 29.10.09

                      Berlin, Lido 01.11.09 (this version is 14:04 long, but not long enough) ELIMINATED

                      Haarlem, Het Patronaat 05.11.09 (this version is 13:38 long) ELIMINATED

                      Brussels, Botanique 07.11.09

                      Bologna, Estragon 11.11.09 (this version is 12:05 long) ELIMINATED

                      København, Loppen 16.11.09

                      Tromsø, Driv 29.04.10

                      Amsterdam, Paradiso 22.05.10

                      Wien, Arena 01.06.10

                      Roma, Circolo Degli Artisti 03.06.10

                      Sardinia, “Duna Jam”-Festival 05.06.10 (there are two Youtube-clips of this one, totaling 15:02. However it might be incomplete.)

                      #19021

                      Duna Jam part 2 is on youtube as well. it's 5.32, making the total available for the song 15.02.

                      However, part 2 cuts off before the end so this could well be a contnder for RW IV.

                      here are both:

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2twyYLBJHI&feature=related

                      #19022

                      Otherdemon wrote:

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                      I feel pretty confident that it's the Leipzig version of Bombproof they included.

                      Indeed. I',m also convinced that it's the Leipzig version they'll use. As you say, the timing fits OK and it's also a BRILLIANT version of Bombproof.

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