March 9, 2021 at 10:29 #38279
Supernaut, I think vaccination shouldnâ€™t be forced upon people, not directly, not indirectly.March 9, 2021 at 10:40 #38280
long term effects:
What is it with those? As if we always decide on everything after thoroughly considering them. Do we start a relationship after 10 years studying its long term effects? Do we book holidays only where we've been a thousand times before? Do we buy an album only after listening to it for 5 years?
What I mean to say is: This pandemic and the vaccination is a new thing – "zÃ¤sur" – which we are obviously challenged with mentally. We try to apply a logic behaviour and critical thinking on it which funnily enough we don't do on everything else because those everything else things we just do without second guessing due to life experiences. They're "normal".
Also, haven't we been vaccinated against tons of sicknesses as kids? Did they ask us if we wanted that? Raped our personal freedom and integrity? Are we sad we missed a chance to get tuberculosis? Those in the past who were the first to be vaccinated without long term studies, do we salute them or laugh at their naivitÃ©?March 9, 2021 at 10:42 #38281
well yes, I think it should. Because it's not a personal choice. Abortion for example is one. Or suicide. Everyone must be free to choose there. But vaccination is a community thing. Like getting a license to drive through traffic where there's people roaming around, which no one is disagreeing on, strangely enough.March 9, 2021 at 10:52 #38282
Another thing I've been wondering about:
How much of this vaccination denial (or doubt) thing comes from irrational fear of needles? Not sure, just wondering, mind! A traumatic, forceful penetration of the body. So it's less about choice and personal freedom, but more of an irrational self defense reaction thingy happening based on evolution going back to our cavemen vs sabre tooth tiger heritage? What if vaccination could be done by a nice minty smelling cream applied to our elbows once every 24 years? Would it be the same drama? Don't know, just wondering…March 9, 2021 at 10:57 #38283
Is there a vaccination against binary thinking? This is what the whole community needsMarch 9, 2021 at 11:05 #38284
Non-binary thinking doesn't always lead to good things per se. If we thought otherwise, we'd think binarily.
But dammit, yet another thought just came:
If we are talking about lack of long term studies and therefore hesitating to get vaccinated: There's the idea of a class division, vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks. They both can go about their day the way they choose to live, right? But we don't have long term studies which prove that vaccinated people are safe from gathering with non-vaccinated. Soooo…. isn't it the duty of everyone getting vaccinated?
(yes I'm aware I somewhat contradict myself to my former post about decision-making based on long term studies, but hey, non-binary ftw! )March 9, 2021 at 11:24 #38285
@fuzzrules – The long term effect from death by Covid-19 is pretty clear – and permanent. The long term effect of vaccination is Motorpsycho concerts in the future again.
Make your choice.March 9, 2021 at 12:16 #38286
@ ThorEgil, Thatâ€˜s the saddest words of a psychonaut written in a long termMarch 9, 2021 at 12:20 #38287
@conscience – what is sad?March 9, 2021 at 12:23 #38288March 9, 2021 at 12:29 #38289
@conscience – If you want to play riddles you can go somewhere else. And stuff your antivaxxer fantasies up your ass while you go.March 9, 2021 at 12:29 #38290
What is this toxic shit doing on the Motorpsycho board instead of facebook?March 9, 2021 at 12:37 #38291
@ the newest post of ThorEgil.That actually were the saddest words of a psychonaut everMarch 9, 2021 at 12:42 #38292
@ David. You are right. low level here at the moment..sorry for thatMarch 9, 2021 at 13:01 #38296suntripperParticipant
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