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That's an amazing Chien! Not even sure if I prefer it to the more current versions. The build up nowadays is sheer madness but this ol' one here has something more brutal to it.
The count is down but erm… what am I missing out on? It all looks like it did before, doesn't it?
so here's a quote:
Hans at the 38min mark:
"we're still learning how to play, sing and write, a continuous learning process. As long as you have that spirit and the will to experiment, then it doesn't settle into something stale. And we still have immense fun struggling to make our music come through."
So good news: there's probably quite a few years of music and juice left in the band. But where haven't they been yet? How much is there left to explore? Of course experimentation or rather free form jammin is endless by nature. Will the realization of having made everything (possible) be the end of the band? Or – which seems more important the way Hans said – when the fun's gone? Well according to the film, that day seems to be way off.
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@bernie: sorry to ask again, maybe you haven't seen me doing so the first time around: Did you present the finished movie to them for some sort of reviewing before releasing?
haha The Elder. I think its pompousness kills it. It's really not the most clever concept album. That said, it was quite daring, pushing the boundaries and I liked it at the time. (heck I even liked Unmasked and still do). "Forget what we did so far, what anyone expects from us, what anyone thinks we're (not) capable of. Now we gonna do this because we feel like it!" Quite motorpsychedelic in spirit. The band is more than we individual musicians are. It's a vessel to do things and go places.
sorry for slightly being OT but it relates to the film…:
@johnny, I've also been a fan when I was 10 to 12, but when I discovered Zeppelin and Sabbath I started to think Kiss were maybe not really thaaaat good and droppped them. Later, maybe around 25, I rediscovered them. They had great songs in the 70s until Ace left. His songs but also some of Gene's like She, Deuce or Watching You I'd put up there with Immigrant Song or Wheels of Confusion.
@Bernie:
How was the band's final say? Did you show it to them before release?
Ha, never underestimate the importance of Kiss.
Lots of great and unique creative bands (not just the campy hair metals) are fans. To quote someone else (don't remember who): Kids back then might have wanted to play like Page or Beck or Eddie, but they picked up the guitar in the first place because of Ace Frehley. The magic, the escapism by becoming-a-superhero, music being something more than just notes and scales. Bent says something like that as well.Though I wouldn't mind a "proper" biographical, chronological career spanning movie with facts and figures (and probably 4 hours long), I agree that the way Bernie's film focuses insightfully on the whys & hows and the motor & the psycho in 2019, is very fascinating. To mention Killing Joke once more, there's been a biopic film recently which does just that, too. It starts out as yr usual career chronology but soon enough it deviates into strange territory, when the bands' ramblings about ideas and motivations take over. And that's a properly produced movie released on DVD. Bernie just sits down with the guys and a camera and pulls it off just as well.
Yeah that was funny. I was introduced to Zeppelin before Crimson and I love both bands nowadays. I wouldn't say Bruford is heavier than Bonzo because no one is! There's a couple of edited Bonzo solo tracks on youtube. Serious oooomph while super swingy. But I absolutely understand Tomas' point the way he puts it. I got "The Great Deceiver" box set with Crimson live recordings from around 73/74 when I wasn't a kid anymore so I'd heard a lot of "heavy" music up to that point and it blew all metal to the moon. Ah, John Wetton!
And Page's acoustic guitar is more powerful than Metallica's chugging? Hell yes!!
thanks bernie!
ah if only there was a motorpsycho videoclips site with a search function… erm… oh….. 8O i guess i was too far in the zone after watching the film.
oh i will. there are so many. Snah's ending quote haha, but also many others… sometimes I feel like Bent is my mind-twin. From Kiss to Purple, then skipping the 80ties except The Cure for the same reasons and landing back in the then present with Hüsker Dü and Dinosaur Jr.
Tomas' observations and comments are very interesting, as in how, as the newbie, to get inside the inner workings of the group. He's like a gateway for us outsiders, touching upon stuff Bent and Hans never would mention because to them it's become so natural and common like breathing and therefore not mentioned.
and that "Gutan I Skogen" snippet, oh wow… is there a proper recording of a whole version like this somewhere? Or is it sadly a lost (or rather missed) possibility for a Golden Vortex classic? Sounds fantastic! And great choice to end the film.
