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@Johnny – In my experience, the length of festival sets is determined by (a) the organisers and tend to be from 1 to 2 hours depending also on (b) the position on the bill – obviously the bigger acts get longer sets.
@Tomcat – setlist.fm lists a number of MP gigs in 2009.

Any chance of seeing either of you there?
I've never been to Roadburn and know next to nothing of the other bands announced so far (with the sole exception of Earthless). The friends who got me into MP are all going and I trust their opinions. However, I'm much more into the psych experience than the doom/metal so I'm hoping there'll be enough of the former to keep me interested, especially given the price, fare and hotel expenses!
According to setlist.fm, last time they played Roadburn (2009) they played just four tracks:
Triggerman
She Left on the Sun Ship
Plan #1
Riding the Tiger
But that's setlist.fm, and I have no further information – e.g. how long the set was (I'm guessing only an hour?) or if they played a second set.
@TraktorBass – Great question! At the moment I'm firmly on the 'great song' side. But there's many many tracks I like a lot more, and many many more I'd like to see them play before I see that one!
@Great King Rat – Not all of the albums, yet. But I couldn't hold back on Timothy's Monster – had to get it. I haven't got Demon Box yet, though. That's next on my list.
TM is a proper monster – huge, beautiful, ugly, scary, mesmerising. At 98 minutes, I feel it could be improved by shedding a few tracks, but where would you start? You can't! It's all good, just some is much better for my taste – The Wheel, Golden Core, Giftland, Watersound, Feel, Kill Some Day… In the Golden Core vs Wheel debate – today I prefer The Wheel

Where does the album fit compared to all the others? For me that's difficult to say. At the moment, I see this as one of several albums (up to Trust Us) that constitute a certain MP era. Of the ones I have from that era (TM, B, AADAP, TU) Trust Us is the one that really stands out to me as a stone-cold classic. The others all have a few tracks that I don't like so much, but when you're talking about six albums' worth of material in three albums (TM, B, AADAP), that's no surprise – that's just an embarrassment of riches – a brilliant, creative band in full flow.
@Dense-Fog I don't see that the Stick Man newsletter mentions the specific date. It says 19-22.04.18. Of course, being Roadburn, there's the possibiity they might play twice, as some of the other bands will. I hope so.
@Dense_Fog How do you know they're playing on the first day? Is that confirmed?
Thanks for the heads-up.
I just turned down going to Roadburn with a bunch of friends – the guys that got me into MP. They're going to be so pleased. I might have to change my plans
Intrepid Explorer has made British newspaper The Guardian's top 100 tracks of 2017 ðŸ˜
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/dec/04/the-top-100-tracks-of-2017
2 gigs, 2 countries (UK and Germany)
@TraktorBass – Aha! I was wondering who the Arnie Hassle character might be, and whether or not there was a connection with the boating title. I figured there had to be, but I had no idea. Thanks for filling in that blank for me (and many others, I would guess).
The Bombproof Roll and Beyond
Although I expect this is common knowledge amongst long-time psychonauts, I had no idea what this title referred to until I bumped into this:
"The Bombproof Roll and Beyond: Mastering Balance and Boat Control" by Paul Dutky
This book is copyrighted 1993.
November 24, 2017 at 10:41 in reply to: Jaga Jazzist – Royal Festival Hall, London, 2017.11.19 #31709Well … this was a great gig. I had only heard Starfire a couple of times and maybe one other album before the gig, so most of it was basically unknown to me. I attended in the company of the three friends who got me into MP, and all four of us thoroughy got off. The gig was held in an auditorium which is generally used for 'serious' music and the sound quality was basically as good as it gets. However, as the final gig in the 2017 EFG London Jazz Festival, a lot of people left during the first two songs, seemingly unaware of what they had let themselves in for.
Opening for JJ was Sinikka Langeland, also from Norway. Her beautiful music came across to me, in parts, like a genteel, folk Magma. It was mesmerising and gorgeous, with the band and singers performing with brilliance and feeling.
An excellent review here: https://www.ft.com/content/dda23d3a-cddd-11e7-947e-f1ea5435bcc7
@fillmore – I hope you don't mind, I availed myself of the WeTransfer link you provided yesterday, as I'm still not up and running with DIME yet.
Listening now – what an excellent recording. And for the first time I'm hearing Greener – that's right, I still haven't heard Blissard! I can't believe I only discovered MP a few months ago. Where have I been! OK gotta go – Lacuna/Sunrise just started. … I'm in heaven!
Just to be clear, I don't actually have a problem with criticism, I just can't come at their output from that angle. Maybe at some point. For those who want to play, go for it – the points being made are pretty interesting.
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