[Grendel]

@gert.

While the article is about analogue vs digital, most of the records that people will listen to and perceive to be superior to CD today are digital imperfections in John Diamonds eyes.

While the start of the article was interesting, I perhaps were too dismissive of it overall because the conclusions was way too New Age for me. This New Age vibe was also why I put the (sic) after quoting “Life Energy”.

When someone talks about energy as something other then as a measure of somethings ability to perform work I get skeptic. Shockingly I’m currently a physics student

Also when people start to talk about why _____ is the reason why the kids are awful these days my response is skepticism.

What little I have worked with sound has mostly been theoretical stuff about sampling and in the frequency domain.

I don’t currently own a record player or even a stereo. I got a pair of Sennheiser 555 headphones connected to a SoundBlaster Audigy2ZS as a compromise between price, sound quality and maintaining peace with the neighbors. I’m not an audiophile by any standard.

As long as the audio is good enough that I’m not annoyed my ears are happy. I’m more a freak about video, and I got the best eyes for video of anyone I know. I get annoyed by stuff in DVD transfers nobody I watch movies with see. Not sure how it is for you, but I sometimes wish I can turn it off and just enjoy the movie

[Grendel]

gert wrote

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Found out about a guy named John Diamond who protested heavily and gave readings back in 79 and 80 when the Compact Disc was pushed into the market. He didn’t win the war against Sony/Philips, but found this article on the net :

http://www.geocities.com/udauda@sbcglobal.net/Digital_Stress.html

So that’s why we prefer vinyl ladies and gentlemen []

That article mentions nothing about preferring vinyl over CD, but how most vinyl records published after 79 were digital abominations.

Compact disc was not pushed into the marked until 1982, so what John Diamond protested in 79-80 was digitally recorded music released on vinyl. Any vinyl record that has been digital in any step of production looses it True Healing Powers and will lower your Life Energy(sic).

Child of the Future certainly was digital at one point, unless the mixing house Digital Domain’s name is ironic.

John Diamond even manages to link the escalating violence in our society and “soaring rate of Ritalin prescribing” to the effects of digital music.

If you have been relaxed by music after 1980 I wouldn’t be too stressed by that article.

Of course you may want to ask someone born before 1980 (Although I’ve never taken Ritalin and I’m not violent).

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@KLCK

Some people don’t want to listen to vinyl, they want to listen to the songs.

And to argue that something isn’t excluding because you can buy it is silly.

Would you argue that releasing a movie only on the superior Blu-Ray format was not excluding? Certianly anyone can buy a Blu-Ray player and enjoy the movie.

For me getting Blu-Ray capability would certainly cost less then a vinyl player.

I’m not arguing against vinyl. Vinyl is a great music format. But CD is also a great (although slightly soulless) music format. I feel that nobody would lose if both formats and digital distribution was supported.

Your post was a good argument for vinyl, but not a good argument for vinyl only. The essence I get about CD is that since you don’t like it, nobody should have it .

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@KLCK

If you think only releasing music on a format a small portion of the music listening public use is not excluding I think our discussion is gone from CD vs vinyl to semantics.

From Merriam Webster

Exclude:1 a : to prevent or restrict the entrance of b : to bar from participation, consideration, or inclusion.

And those cracks and pops on the mp3, we have excellent software to remove those now.

[Grendel]

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???

As many of the responses in this thread shows, releasing an album on vinyl only excludes parts of the fanbase.

My question was why you would prefer vinyl only.

Is your vinyl worse if someone else could buy a CD?

Edit: To clarify; when you say you wish MP would only release on vinyl, you are not wishing for something to be better for yourself, MP has always been good to vinyl fans. You are wishing for less options and for it to be worse for others who don’t enjoy vinyl. Why?

[Grendel]

KLCK wrote:

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I wish they would release vinyl only in the future.

Why would you wish fever people can listen to MPs music?

[Grendel]

Setlist from memory:

Year Zero

Sideway Spiral II

You Loose

(Some instrumental song I didn’t recognize) Bent said something about drum n bass after it, which described it well.

Lucid Little Moments suite

Good show on an open air scene with the ocean as a backdrop.

About 1 hour long.

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