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@ Johnny: Yes NOX is real good training for the attention span!
"just was triggered by the combination of the "Great Reset" terminology and the Harari quote"
The quote was part of a speech at The World Economic Forum, so it belongs together in some way.
"And I do not doubt Schwab really wants to do something for the better, contrary to the abounding portrait of him as an evil puppet player and master of evil."
Because I also think, nobody is really (only) evil, you are maybe right in this case. It´s great, that they will use their power to make a better world and better humans in the future. But I know hundreds or maybe billions of other people, who have better ideas. (but less money).
What is so good about living longer and stronger. For some other people, the sense of life is more in the depth, than in lenght.
I like, that you have mentionend in some of your posts (if I remember right), that not every conspiracy theory will become reality. And I hope, The Great Reset will not happen in the way, Schwab and some others want. But I think, it is important, that some things are not only "stinking conspiracy mess". Like suntripper mentioned, "We have to take them by their words"
It´s more than black and white. I only would like, that some people would be better informed, but I am also aware, that this is very hard or nearly impossible. Today in the morning I tried to learn more about Harari. I liked some of his thoughts, some not. You can also say, all that he wrote about the past and the future is conspiracy theory. It´s only the opinion, of one single guy and his scources. I personally prefer some older philosophs and scientists. So, maybe you would like to say, read more, read that or this. And I would say, look for the JP Sears video of TGR with German subtitles, if it´s easier. Or begin with Event201 Pandemic Exercise (link below). I only want to show, that it´s all there, and it´s up to you, if you want to feel sceptical or not.
In some way, I´m pretty sure, we are thinking the same: Listening to good music is much better, than wasting time, by informing about all the weird stuff. (But it isn´t easy while living in dangerous times)
But as long, as I believe, some people don´t know about it, I have the urge to show them, so they can choose themselves, what they like to think about it…
Here Be Monsters (vol.2 /a-side) is about 15 minutes, too. Have you ever heard it complete or judged after a few seconds? I think this (Comedy) video is a good intro and small summery of TGR, but maybe you need an attention span of an analog psychonaut to understand and feel sceptical:)
Comedian JP Sears about The Great Reset:
Sorry, but I don’t have an own Internet access and writing with a borrowed mobile is stressful…
I only wanted to explain, that my interrest is more in other things than politics. And when politics, then: if there is a Connection between restrictions, The Great Reset and war. In which world are we living now and in the Future?
@Norman „Go and say this first to those who wish to exclude from the discourse anyone with a dissenting stance! Yes, there are such here, we've had these issues. Yes, leftists are like that. As soon as they run out of arguments (usually this happens pretty soon), and the facts are against them, then the only method left to them is trying to cancel the other.“
I am not able to chat with you about all the topics you are interessed in. I am only a poor old psychonaut and would like to live in a better world
@ Norman: And now? Are you left or right, if it‘s so easy? And is there a place in your head to understand music in stereo (spatial sound) or is it full with straight left-right politically stuff? And what about your heart? Is it able to love music? Are your feelings only between two poles? Maybe you hear less music than me. I hear stuff from nearly every direction, all styles, all times and all over the planet, all languages… I have no time to waste my life, with having principle discussions about politics. If there were no pandemic, no restrictions, no war, no great reset, no apocalypse to fear, I wouldn‘t talk a minute about stupid things like politics.
@ Norman, I try to understand your opinion and your emotions as well as any other.
But I want to know, are you still a psychonaut? Of cause you are right. Compared to the 60/70 nearly all rock-musicians in present pandemic time act like prostitutes from some kind of a view. (a (old) punk view, a rebel view…) You have good reasons to feel disappointed and raged. But does it help? Maybe we should not care how small or big the balls of the members of our favourite bands (plural) are.
I hope, you are still able to enjoy the MUSIC of Mopsy. If not, what are you doing here? Maybe your opinion is important, too to understand all emotions in these days, but personally I prefer the ways of the ones who try to enlighten instead denouncing.
And because of the left-right thing: You can put this in a garbage can. Who cares in 2022?! It‘s only about right or wrong. Or better said, good or bad.
@ grindlove: please look at the date.
Maybe you can understand better, when you read again an even older post in the thread „Romaniac‘s Monster“. Here Is a copy:
TICKET TO RIDE – THE BEATLES
In the USA, the world's largest event organizer (it is worth researching what kind of business this company earns money with, with whom it is still connected) offered a letter to the president to organize and set up vaccination centers To take care of. After all, clubs and halls are usually easily accessible to everyone and you could fall back on a staff who is already experienced in dealing with large crowds.
Europe's largest ticket distributor, in turn, has for some time been adapting its software, which has been tried and tested a million or billions of times. First to use them to assign vaccination appointments, as is already happening in a German federal state and they were / are in discussion with other countries such as Italy and Switzerland.
Said ticket distributor announced today that the prerequisites had been created on their portal to be able to read vaccination cards. This gives organizers the opportunity to provide proof of vaccination as an entry requirement if they so wish.
But they don't have to. Organizers, artists and audiences still have a choice: they can go along with any damn shit, or they can rebel against it. You can have some barely tested broth injected into your arm, or you can boycott certain events in the future, or tickets linked to vaccination certificates, and go to the barricades now.
POSTED 1 YEAR AGO #
@ Thomas „What I don´t understand is how you dare to make the band responsible for thatâ€.
It isn´t that easy. It isn´t only black and white. Of cause, Bent is not responsible for the virus, not for the pandemic, not for the restrictions, not for all problems in the world. But his words about vaccine-passports are responsible for more than 250 posts in this thread. So this is the only right place for further pandemic-discussions. Where else? During a Motorpsycho-Show, directly in your ear?! Or with the not 2g+ (outside waiting) people before and after a show? Do you really want to exclude psychonauts from this forum? Is it not enough to exclude them from half of their real life should be? This is the only place where ALL psychonauts can share their thoughts or leave different types of emotions.
In my opinion, this thread is necessary as a documentation. So we all can look back and see, what can happen, if people make the right or the wrong decisions. (if not every angry comment will be deleted soon)
Similar like suntripper and some others, I am little afraid, what can happen in the future (and the current pandemic is only the beginning, only a small part of a much bigger thing). I don´t know, if we are right, and everything or something becomes reality. But it is very important, to be widely informed in times like this, to come as close as possible to the truth. (With the exception of suntripper, not many psychonauts seem to be. Please, proof me wrong!)
We all are responsible for all we are doing, and all we are not doing. (We all, not only Bent)
Thanks Boomer, for your last words. That is a good beginning to reach hands again (or build bridges). I want to apologize too, because of my provocation. (but sometimes, I feel, that I have no other choice.)
What all psychonauts connect is our love to our favourite band. And we all know: Motorpsycho live are the best Motorpsycho. Music shall connect, not divide.
Me, for example, I am older than you, much longer a fan. And I thought deep (and lived) about a decade more, what freedom is. What do you think, how it feels, to read, when other psychonauts (maybe real friends) write, that long-time psychonauts should have to stay in lockdown, while the “obedient†people (a word you used in your now deleted post) have fun and enjoy the live-shows of our all-time favourite band?
I still believe, that this forum and this thread is the right place to talk about, and it´s necessary because, like I said before, present time is because what artists and fans decided one year ago. We should not forget this. And you can´t deny it: Bent´s interview was the starting-point.
So please let us discuss, until we are not longer divided. Let us psychonauts set a good example for the rest of the world. And let us try again to discuss in a more friendly, more polite, more constructive way, albeit the topic is still very complicated.
