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I was so lucky to see The Wheel twice. First time, at Oya 2006. As Devotional mentioned, it was rather disappointing. Mainly, due to the fact that the sound was pretty weak… as was Jaco's drumming :roll: (Solid, but lacking that necessary dynamics/punch). Plus it was bright daylight, people were cheering and for whatever other reason, it simply didn't work – at least how I imagined the song to be live. However, I got over it and this year's Dresden show 100% made up for it. Although I found the show a bit difficult, they absolutely nailed that song!!! What a brutal, beautiful beast.
Just googled “The Crucible“. Apparently there is a theatre play by Arthur Miller, followed by a film adaptation. The overall topic being witch hunts in Northern America and related social discord and chaos. So, as announced in the press text, a continuation of The Tower lyrically.
3 Songs, wow! Quite a twist to my expectations :lol: Lux probably being the 8 minute-song then. So, maybe a "short" suite and two more conventional songs…getting a bit of a "more concice LLM" feel now.
@mister conclusion
I was there and I also thought about mentioning the infamous spitting incident. originally I decided to not post it and leave it a thing of the past, but anyway, now the cat is out of the bag (does that exist in english??? :roll:). It was nothing much to write home about actually. During a silent part in Golden Core, Bent dealt with a heckler in a rather physical, moist way. That was it. What followed was some of the most tense discussions here in the forum ("Rock'n'roll, who cares?" VS. "dick move")
@Bartok: Thanks for clarification! That's the great thing about true art. It is universal and you can project it onto whatever you like. The grand topics life/death, mythology, specific incidents like the one mentioned here, personal eyperience.
Sorry, i don't have it. I didn't even attend the show. The drummer topic popped up randomly and doesn't relate to the show. Went a bit off-topic.
Yeah! Dense and concise sounds great. Nice continuation regarding the artwork. Is it the whole painting or a section of it?
To get it straight, there really was a public discussion about possible glorification in an unreleased song in Norway?
Besides the psychosophical dabblings, I definitely need to correct my verdict upon first listen live, stating that the song structure was messy. Complete BS! :mrgreen: LA is total beauty! Perfectly arranged, sublime harmonies, you name it. It has everything I love about the band! Potential classic!
When Motorpsycho comment on current events or issues they keep it rather abstract and metaphoric – an approach I prefer a lot over direct statements. Ocassionally there are more or less obvious hints, e.g. ship of fools, but it's always universally valid so that the art stays independent from what it refers to, or might refer to.
Regarding the "possible" Lux Aeterna/Breivik-Link, I am not familiar with the crime beyond what was in the media, but maybe it is not so contradictory to link it to the end of 2001 after all. I always understood the final scene of the movie, as a metaphor of man being eager to get beyond its mere existence, eventually approaching the insurmountable frontier that is his mortality/insignificance. The idea being that acts of evil and perfidy in massacres, like the one on Utøya, or any other genocide work as an allegory to some sort of approach to the edges of humanity, putting that insignifance and minuteness on display. "there’s nothing left for anyone to say"…what do you say after such a thing happened? So, that's us? This is what humans do? Fuck.
Might be a bit of a stretch, and a rather somber take admittedly, but that was my first uneducated guess. Maybe the whole lyrics and the context of the album will bring some revelation.
Oh, what did I spark!
@ThorEgil Thank you for the link! Consider me proven wrong… a little!
That is definitely straight forward playing. Like I said, I don't question Tomas' capability to play such stuff, yet hardcore/metal drumming is a bit of a different story though I think. Maybe "groove" is what puts the finger on it more precisely. @supernaut Sorry for opening old wounds! But "Indie police"….ouch, that hurt :lol:
Of course, you're perfectly right that they became better players and I definitely don't want them to return to the past. I perfectly understand that they have to keep it exciting and challenging for themselves.
@grindove Yes, as you point out that "static" drumming certainly was on porpuse. For me, it doesn't fully carry the song though. That is exactly my point. I think that, while sticking to the straight beat, some minimal dynamics/variations could have breathed more life into the recording.
Excuse the blasphemy! Yet, the point of a forum is to be able to express one's individual perception/viewpoint…however wrong it might be, right?
I definitely consider Tomas' play to be skillful AND soulful when being off the leash. But I think it is a real challenge, especially for extraordinarily skilled drummers, to play a simple beat and keep it exciting without artistic shenanigans, but through feeling and intuition. You know, the krauty, Jaki Liebezeit- or, if you will, Geb-like approach to drumming. That said, I really love technical drumming, but a simple groove can serve as a counterpoint to make both aspects even more exciting and effective.
As for the A.S.F.E. example: Of course tomas handles the song! Please, dude knows how to play! All I am saying is that to me it sounds/feels like it takes him some effort to keep it straight instead of embracing the simplicity of the rhythm and just go for it. It's like a race horse at a pony show.
