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Quote:Since torrents are kind of dead and the process of sharing is becoming more and more complicated, we thought of an alternative.Since most of the older torrents are now kind of dead and the process of sharing is becoming more and more complicated for some people obviously, we thought of an alternative.
Quote:Several options were named and we agreed that the achive.org plattform would be perfect. We also agreed, that we don't like the idea to proceed without the permission of the band and the management. So I am writing to you and seek for the permission.Several options were named and we agreed that the live music archive on the achive.org plattform would be perfect. Not only is it home to the massive Grateful Dead live tape collection, but it has since developped and hosts lots of fan recordings from other interesting bands. Besides there is a policy at archive.org to stick to the copyrights of musicians and seek their permission.
We agreed in the Motorpsycho forum that we don't like the idea to proceed without permission of band and management. We are certain that this will not diminish Motorpsycho's income in any way – on the other hand there might be raising even more interest in the band via an archive.org Motorpsycho collection of fan recordings. Should any conflicts arise uploaders could easyly be contacted with their given archive.org mail adress.
What we need is not the umpteenth alternative, but the go from Motorpsycho management. Besides uloz.to is hosting everything, also illegal rips and stolen music. Not that I am a saint in this field, but this will hardly convince any band management. Let's stick to the good old archive and clear it with MP!
Exactly. Is there somebody with connections to or known by Motorpsycho management who could put forth the proposition? (petition the lords with prayer? – not quite
)
Hey Bernie – thanx once more! Great sights & sounds as usual.
I guess this was the last MP thing you filmed for a while, so enjoy the next step of your journey whithout all the psychonauts pestering you for more
I think it is most important to agree to one platform first, or we're were we started first. Relisten is probably good for streaming, but streaming is ecologically unsound and bad four your soul (Church of Heartfield, pope according to R.A. Wilson). I would prefer a stable platform where both listening and downloading are equally easy, and this seems to be the case with archive.org. If somebody additionally wants to feed relisten, no problem, as these platforms obviously have an agreement.
As I am sceptical about any other platform with ratio regulations (everyone prefers the service s/he's got the best ration on) I find the archive.org idea intriguing. Not least because archive.org once started hosting all those Dead recordings.
That would need a little organisation though. I would like to start a test upload, but that would of course involve the o.k. of the original taper/DIME uploader. Besides we should probably get the OK from Motorpsycho management to create a MP live collection on archive org.
Once there are at least 50 different uploads in the Live Music Archive on archive.org, you can ask them to create a collection. Besides for uploads you have to stick to certain naming standards. You need a 2 letter band abbreviation (MP is still not being used, I've checked that), then the description should be like this:
https://archive.org/create.php?lma=1
Probably there could be an agreement with all those tapers and uploaders on DIME, Motortrades etc. that concerts are uploaded on archive.org only after a certain amount of first publication on said platforms (probably 4-6 weeks?).
I think the upload itself is not problematic – once these points have been agreed upon everyone with a free archive.org account can upload his or others MP recordings (taper's agreement provided of course). Probably we might need some kind of administrator for the Live Music Archive Collection, once it has been registered, but that should not be a problem.
It would be great to have a (completist) MP live collection on archive.org – so please do comment on this idea (tapers especially)!
btw: archive.org is certainly the platform of choice. telegram can go to hell as far as I'm concerned…
Obviously it is easier to work on tour statistics than to remember personal experiences
I for myself have been busy recapturing the tour by grabbing the various recordings, listening and selecting the best stuff (usually 1 CD lenght per gig, as hard as it comes) for my private tour compilation. Overwhelming not only in the amount of material this time, but also in the variety and quality of music played. Whoa – but that's Motorpsycho for you.
What I find interesting is that there are quite a few better recordings of music that I experienced almost perfect or overwhelming live. While enthusing over my Köln live experience I found out that for instance N.O.X. turns out much clearer, more dynamic and versatile on recordings from other gigs. But maybe I was just overwhelmed. Anyway – as enjoyable and helpfull all those recordings may be – there is nothing like a Motorpsycho live experience!
And then I was quite happy to meet a few people again – people from other gigs, be it just two days or five years ago, and to connect a few forum nicknames to faces again. Nice to meet you all! And while I'm still waiting for the Munich recording, I'm already looking forward for the new album that is rumoured to be out sometime in summer. Well, summer starts in two days meterologically, if not motorpsychedelically…
From my experience Motortrades is too small a community to operate on classic trading mode – for instance upload/download quota. Too keep alive you need a regular influx of new members or at least a large number of permanent seeders and leechers. That can hardly achieved by a trading forum dedicated to one band only. Once you've grabbed everything you can get (sorry, but people are motorgreedy
), the thing is dead. And when a community dies or is only rarely visited, administrators lose interest. This is usually the end. Insofar Motortrades has valiantly fought against that trend for a long time, but I think it is long overdue to revert to DIME, like it or not.
3:21. Insane. But still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwfUfTmOHvA
Or rather tonight…
@ The Conscience: … and the "great reset" happens on the playlist – between every second or third concert. The world is better with Motorpsycho!
@ supernaut: Berlin was great without N.O.X., Cologne extraordinary though N.O.X. better played (or recorded) in Hamburg, especially in Amsterdam (hindsight). Best version the 2021 Gent desertfest trio version imho. Still an overwhelming experience at the right place in a MP set. I'm sure they will come back to the suite now and again, but probably not regularly.
Surprise adds a special quality to life (as a psychonaut)
Ian Gillan anecdote (from gillan.com):
Quote:Black Sabbath and Motorhead were doing an open air show in Dublin. I watched the Motorhead show from start to finish, as usual, it felt as if I'd strapped a Boeing 747 to each ear.Later in the dressing room the guitar player said to Lemmy "Here, we never done our new single".
Lemmy turns and says "I done it second".
Philthy says "I done it fifth".
I had similar experiences with earlier MP concert recordings. The problem is there can be various causes for distortion. One – and the most obvious – is exceeding the recording level limit (shown by display while recording or playing back). With digital recordings this usually generates so-called "clipping" effects, that might be eradicated with the help of an editing tool.
The other cause for (this time serious) distortion is the sheer sound pressure at concerts (especially near Bent's bass amp) that can overstress the used (internal or external) microphones or the capacities of the recording facility. This will not necessarily lead to exceeding the displayed recording level, but will have severe sound consequences: awful distortion that you will NOT be able to remove with any tool I know. Being frustrated with several of my earlier MP gig recordings I know what I talk of…
Nevertheless the Zoom H4n Pro device mentioned should be able to avoid this. It can be helpful to choose the highest possible bit rate (usually 24, sometimes even 32 bit). A higher bit rate enables the device to record exreme frequencies that might otherwise lead to distortion. It might as well be useful to use external microphones – but as far as I know the Zoom device shoud do. (Probably use automatic level function as well).
In any case – if you are in doubt about the capacities of your recording device, choose a suitable place to record, not too close to the stage to avoid direct instrumental amp or monitor sound. Ideally you should position yourself or your microphones somewhere near (in front or behind) the mixing desk.
(Says the recording "expert" who tried to smuggle a primitive walkman recorder into the Frankfurt Grateful Dead concert in 1990 – what a fool I was then
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Quote:Am I the only one who thinks that the sound was somewhat disappointing?In Motorpsycho@Gloria terms the sound was brilliant. Usually you get lots of mud in the pit as opposed to excellent sound on the few steps near the mixing desk only. (Remember MP@Gloria 2019?)
@ Spacebandit: I'm completely cool now knowing some recording will reach your hands in the near future. For now I'm still enjoying my memory of the gig very much.
@ Cormorant: For me the first part of the gig was a highlight as well. Many Dead-like tunes & jams.
