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Just like In Our Tree and ASFE did, The Waning probably doesn't say much of the forthcoming album. Quite sure they don't put the biggest epic most wild song out before album time on purpose. Probably even have a giggle about it.
btw nowadays I LOOOVE In Our Tree and ASFE.
and Punj above on page 3, well put!
and the latest Tool album is a snore. I used to like them a lot, was very impressed up to Lateralus. But they're stuck in their thing now.
Another coincidence:
People who agree with what one says are always wonderful smart thinking individuals.
JERO
Quote:As well as into Magma,Groundhogs,Husker Du,Hüsker Dü got me into Motorpsycho. First time I've ever heard them was their take on New Day Rising on a HüDü tribute album. Best cover on the album. And that hilarious Beatles ending. Bent told me Magma is the BEST BAND EVEEERRRR!!! but I still struggle a bit getting into them. :lol:
Well what happens when you play every day for 30 years? You became a better player. What to us might sound overly complicated – "proggy" – as opposed to the rather simple structures who focused more on moods and layers – "product of youth" – might come to them just as easy now as Timothy's Demon Blissard did back then. The tools at disposal changed, therefore the music. Then again, things like NOX floor me just as well like if not more than The Wheel or Plan #1 did (still do…). And that's a feat. And aren't we all excited for any new album? Do we yawn at shows through the new material, only waiting for the old classics and crowd pleasers finally to be served? An issue pretty much every other band with a past has to cope with. But not them. Because they're still brilliant and we are a cool bunch. :mrgreen: I just hope with all the exploring and experiments they keep writing catchy and tight killer songs like The Promise and The Magpie. But transcendental magic like NOX or Ship of Fools I wouldn't want to miss, either.
Quote:First of all, I take my hat off to you for doing that kind of work rather than chasing money and a bogus form of status. I also pay tribute to you for asserting that having this discussion here is perfectly valid. However, I must ask, do you really think I am so inhuman as to care less about such vulnerable people than I do about my little bit of freedom? What makes you think that?No need to take that hat off. If someone wants to make lots of money, that's allright with me. Question is how and what for, but it's not basically wrong. And I'm not doing mine to be congratulated or something…
I'm not so sure anymore if I think this discussion is "vaild". It should be possible to discuss non-MP related stuff now and then on the side if desired (though I could do without), but this topic started to smell like Qanon at some point. So…
I don't know where, how and if you validate your personal interests above the public interest. I was talking about people throwing around world wide concerning theories as excuses for not having to adapt for personal, and only personal, motives. Their talk comes across as serious worry about the world and us, but in fact they just take themselves way too important. They talk how the sheep "don't see THE PLAN of the governements and the big industry and Bill Gates" and whatnot. While they themselves don't see or just plain deny what's happening in plain naked numbers and facts, the hospitals filled to the brink and medical staff and virologists shouting out. And of course "the media" lies, and the governements lie. I can't stand this self important narcissism cloaked as fashionably woke. There's other topics these concerned citizens never talk about. Weapon industry and deals, destroying the environment, horrific work situations for those who make our nice clothes and cellphones, and then having the nerve of speaking about uncertain long term effects while smoking and drinking and eating the crappy food we're being given ("yeah I love frozen pizza and that thing that looks like a salad but don't you get any closer with that needle!!!"), stuff that we simply ignore because we got used to them. But this virus is new! And suddenly people who so far never gave two cents about the workings of the world now care for the wellbeing of all of us.
I mean wtf is the problem with just shutting up, wearing a mask, wash and disinfect hands and keeping distance? That's all there is to it. If everyone did it (or had done it), we'd be way better off already now. Problem is, doing so makes one just one little human amongst the many billion others. And unimportant. Some can't deal with that.
Considering no one is really reading all the posts thoroughly (I don't) I also drop the mic now.
Yay! Soon! KINGDOM OF OBLIVION!
Now it's covid-19. We also have the climate change issue. I shudder to think what the naysayers and anti vaccers will do when (or rather if) there will finally be some new "rules" installed. "I'm a free and independent thinking person and no fascist governement is telling me how much carbon dioxide I can throw around!"
Kid A
Quote:Get your shit together… all of you. What many people don’t get, this shouldn’t be about ideology. It’s just a crappy situation we got ourselves in, due too many decades of disastrous lifestyle in the Western Hemisphere.and
ThorEgil
Quote:Covid-19 is not politics, fascism or a conspiracy. It's a disease with a fatality rate at around 2%, and about 10% get serious long term effects.There will be no festivals, tours or big concerts before the majority of the population is vaccinated – or the 2% of the population is dead…
That's a fact. Deal with it.
Pretty much my thoughts. Some put way too much personal politics and ideology into it. It's a fucking drag, a stupid disease, didn't come out of the blue, though. As Kid A put it, it's a consequence of how we live, so yes there is some politics or rather a way to look at life and how to live it in there. But the dealing with it right now and the foreseeable future shouldn't be tainted by politics. I repeat myself: It's not a personal matter, it's a widespread community matter. So individuality is not quite the top priority. I'm working in the health department with disabled and/or elderly people. Their lives aren't sugar coated even without a deadly virus. So yes I'm very annoyed by egocentric views of people who think they lose some kind of freedom if they have to adapt a teeny bit of their routines to life under a deadly virus.
Some wrote this is the wrong place/board/phorum. I disagree. It's only one thread, that should be allowed. I'm interested in what you guys think. Or do you only want to talk about which MP record is the best one to grow mushrooms to?
these two reviews and one article I read somewhere else make me think more of The Tower than Timothy's Monster…
Non-binary thinking doesn't always lead to good things per se. If we thought otherwise, we'd think binarily.
But dammit, yet another thought just came:
If we are talking about lack of long term studies and therefore hesitating to get vaccinated: There's the idea of a class division, vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks. They both can go about their day the way they choose to live, right? But we don't have long term studies which prove that vaccinated people are safe from gathering with non-vaccinated. Soooo…. isn't it the duty of everyone getting vaccinated?
(yes I'm aware I somewhat contradict myself to my former post about decision-making based on long term studies, but hey, non-binary ftw!
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Another thing I've been wondering about:
How much of this vaccination denial (or doubt) thing comes from irrational fear of needles? Not sure, just wondering, mind! A traumatic, forceful penetration of the body. So it's less about choice and personal freedom, but more of an irrational self defense reaction thingy happening based on evolution going back to our cavemen vs sabre tooth tiger heritage? What if vaccination could be done by a nice minty smelling cream applied to our elbows once every 24 years? Would it be the same drama? Don't know, just wondering…
well yes, I think it should. Because it's not a personal choice. Abortion for example is one. Or suicide. Everyone must be free to choose there. But vaccination is a community thing. Like getting a license to drive through traffic where there's people roaming around, which no one is disagreeing on, strangely enough.
long term effects:
What is it with those? As if we always decide on everything after thoroughly considering them. Do we start a relationship after 10 years studying its long term effects? Do we book holidays only where we've been a thousand times before? Do we buy an album only after listening to it for 5 years?
What I mean to say is: This pandemic and the vaccination is a new thing – "zäsur" – which we are obviously challenged with mentally. We try to apply a logic behaviour and critical thinking on it which funnily enough we don't do on everything else because those everything else things we just do without second guessing due to life experiences. They're "normal".
Also, haven't we been vaccinated against tons of sicknesses as kids? Did they ask us if we wanted that? Raped our personal freedom and integrity? Are we sad we missed a chance to get tuberculosis? Those in the past who were the first to be vaccinated without long term studies, do we salute them or laugh at their naivité?
