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@ the conscience
I have not read the Arvay book but have looked him up and read a little about his thoughts regarding the vaccinations (of which there are now several being used, having been created by various organisations). I think we all should be sceptical about what we put in our body and, in relation to drugs, about the chemicals used and the processes by which they are brought to the public (or to the market, if you will). I am no fan of big pharma! Either way, though, the virus is with us, it is widespread, it trasmits much more easily and faster than flu and is much more deadly and can have dreadful long-lasting effects for some of those who recover. Given this reality, Big Pharma can either provide us with prevetative medicine (vaccines) or treatments/cures (it's a kind of "you pay me now or you pay me later" situation – if later, then lots of people will die in the meantime). I believe the former (prevention) is better than the latter (treatment/cure). In this regard, it seems clear that staying healthy through diet, exercise, mental care, care of the environment etc. are always, IMHO, better preventatives than drugs – but sometimes, those things are not enough, especially in a society that seems hell bent on destroying itself by ignoring those things. So a combination of the best possible solutions – not one thing to the exclusion of another – is what I would aim for.
I also noticed Arvay has talked about Bill Gates' involvement. Sadly, all the previous discussions I've seen about Bill Gates in this regard have come from people who also push very questionable theories, or whose ideas sit side by side on websites with people who follow QAnon, David Icke, and similar – this immediately turns me off.
@ the conscience (again)
If you want to see "all psychonauts" joining hands together, you would be advised not to charcaterise those who choose to be vaccinated as "needle junkies" (which is a clearly negative term), and those who do not choose to be vaccinated as "rebels" (which has for many many years been code for "cool"). Such charcaterisations do not bring people together, they divide them.
@ mister conclusion:
What you outline is pretty much where my head is at. I see vaccination passports as a temporary solution to enable clubs and the like to operate without the fear of their venue becoming a site for the spread of the virus. Once "herd immunity" is reached through vaccination and infection/recovery, then there would be no need for the passport.
Personally I believe vaccination should be entirely the individual's choice and if people choose not to be vaccinated for reasons of religion, vegetarianism, or whatever they happen to have read or understood about vaccinations and the virus (whether they are well informed, uninformed, or misinformed), then that's up to them.
PS I had my first vaccination shot on Sunday and am a vegetarian.
@ suntripper
I can address two of your questions.
Flu deaths are down because 1. We are all practising infection control methods such as washing hands, wearing masks, social distancing and lockdown. 2. People are dying of COVID, which is far more virulent and deadly than flu.
"Excess deaths" in the UK (which means deaths by all causes over and above the five-year average) is currently running at just over 123,000 since the outbeak of coronavirus began, which is very close to the official number of COVID-19 deaths for the same period.
In the spirit of "I hate what you're saying but love that you're saying it", I would be very interested in reading unemotional arguments regarding why vaccination passports are a problem for those that are against them for concerts, and why they are a good idea to those that are in favour of them for concerts. But I am not interested if this turns into a "you're a twat" "no, you're a twat" mud-slinging. My mind is not made up on this subject, and I believe both sides have both good arguments and problematic arguments and I would like to read them if some of you can consider taking the time to lay them out. I'll check back later … or tomorrow.
@Naur – thanks
@fco – Hey, where did that image come from? I love it! And I'm getting increasingly excited about this album, but still over a month to wait! Where's the "single" already? :wink:
One could almost say nobody talks anymore, the public discourse is gone, it's ugly like never before, and binary thinking has won. :wink:
@ Hans Boller – I should think there has been an awful lot of debate among scientists but that it gets watered down to whatever the politicians decide and media interpret and what they both think the general public can understand or process as well as what the politicians think is the most effective but also easiest way of keeping the public under control.
In the UK the government's handling has been disastrous (vaccine programme aside) but the incumbent government still manages to maintain a healthy lead in the polls because they've managed to undermine anyone who questions them by saying we should all be pulling in one direction and supporting the government at a time of emergency. Consequently both the media and the opposition have virtually stopped challenging the government or trying to hold them to account for their dreadful handling and corrupt handing out of contracts to friends, donors and relatives.
When I saw the title The United Debased I remembered the band had played that and another new track at gigs last year. The other was titled The Hornet. I wonder what happened to that – maybe the title changed.
In any case, 12 new tracks should provide an interesting assortment to get stuck into. Can't wait. :MPD:
A little more info from Rune Grammofon about the new album
Quote:One would think that after the “GullvÃ¥g Trilogy†– two double and a single album in a mere three years – this ultra productive trio might be in need of a break of sorts… but on the other hand, riding a golden wave like never before in their 30+ year existence, why stop now? Especially when constantly upping their own quality standards.The bulk of the album was recorded in France back before the pandemic, but was added to, expanded, tweaked and eventually finished last year. The initial idea was to collect big riffs on one album and do a pure hard rock record, but the objective changed along the way as they rediscovered their folkish bent and how this lighter touch gave it all a nice contrast. That said, the main musical thrust is pretty full-on, even by Motorpsycho standards.
Kingdom of Oblivion was mixed by Andrew Scheps and produced by Bent Sæther.
Reine Fiske guests on several tracks.
Cover art is by Sverre Malling and cover design is by HÃ¥vard Gjelseth.
I love that the band gets involved in these kinds of projects. Whether new music is involved or not, the experience widens their horizons and feeds back into the band in ways that may or may not be obvious – both financially (I hope) and creatively.
Good luck for the lifting of lockdown.
Check out up and coming British rock band Torus. I think they could appeal to a few people here.
Google translation of above:
Quote:MotorpsychoKingdom of Oblivion
Stickman Records / RuneGrammofon
Last week, a new album was announced from the institution Motorpsycho. Not terribly many details about the music on albums publicly, than so far. The release date is currently 16 April. And a little more complementary info about the cover. Because where the last three studio albums have been adorned with paintings by Håkon Gullvåg, this time the immediately unmistakable pencil line by Sverre Malling is in front. We got a quick comment from Malling:
– I received a request from Motorpsycho to draw a record cover for the album. The title cut, "Kingdom of Oblivion", is about the opiate epidemic. After getting acquainted with the pictorial associations, I suggested a recent drawing that I thought could fit . And when vocalist Bent and HÃ¥vard Gjelseth (graphic designer, also known for extensive work with Crispin GloverRecords, journ.anm.) Saw this drawing, they found both a relation to, and an extension of the title. By drawing both the logo and the record title by hand, the result was also a composition more directly related to the record.
MB
@ Kjellepelle – thanks
I just read an interview with Bent from November in which he said that the new music he'd recently listened to included Idles, Black Midi, Astrosaur, Smerz, Ultraflex and Valkyrien Allstars. Maybe some of that will have had an influence.
@ marc – thanks for that info on Malling and Swinburne.
I'm interested to see how much symmetry there is between the music/lyrics and the artwork and its subject. I'm also curious to find out how much the style/look of the artwork has any resonance in the style/sound of the music. I've mentioned before that I'd love to hear the band put together a semi-acoustic album along the lines of Led Zeppelin III, Neil Young's After the Goldrush, and David Crosby's If I Could Only Remember My Name… Perhaps something like supernaut describes in his post above. In any case, even though I didn't like the new cover at first glance, I've been drawn deeper into it and am really intrigued by its contrasts with the Gullvag covers, but also by its weirdly dark, psychedelic yet warmly pastoral themes.
A change of sonic palette would be welcome (not that I've anything against the three albums that have gone before), but I wonder how much of the material originates in the recordings for The All Is One, because earlier reports from the band suggested there was a lot more material in the can than was released. Deathprod's and Schepps' involvement might indicate that at least some of it comes from those recording sessions, but then again wasn't there also more recent news of time spent in studio? I know all this speculation is mostly pointless (other than the fun and satisfaction I get from speculating in and of itself), and I'm guessing it won't be long before Monsiuer Le Bad lays much of the details on us, but for now, I live in excited anticipation of the music to come.
I've already read on one forum a couple of people decrying the rate at which the band release new music – "less is more", "quality over quantity" etc. To my mind, the quality is so high and the journey so full of unexpected turns that in this particular band's case less simply cannot be more. Thank you Motorpsycho for always keeping it interesting and for not taking your foot off the gas.
