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You don’t look so young either, chien d’espace – I fear you might be an old white guy soon as well ;-)
Fuck – I hate those cheap classifications by age and peer group. Probably and excuse to avoid dealing with the deeper analysis of things. But maybe that’s what I’m doing with the tattoo phenomenon? Wondering…
As for lower class people: I’d sell my grandmother for a cheap pun, so no real insult meant. On the other hand I always like to muster all the arrogance and intellectual snobism available to despise obvious stupid mass behaviour and individual stupidity – which mostly isn’t a question of class, gender, race, age etc… Not that I consider tattoos just that. As for the individual: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. As a collective phenomenon though it is kind of unpersonal and subject to my – and any other person’s – interpretation.
And the latter has lead me to the observation, that tattoos have changed or change with the age of the bearer or the era he’s living in respectively. While the rediscovered tribalism of tattoos isn’t a new thing (therefore the word “tribal”), the motives and imagery obviously are subject to a kind of evolution in a socio-cultural (and age) context. And I specialize both in digesting imagery and analyzing their cultural relevance, so please allow me some stupid fake arrogance in this matter ;-)
That‘s ok, it doesn‘t matter anyway, it‘s still those with the least to say that will be heard 🤟#mid aged ‚girl‘ with MPTribal
You’re a nice guy, aren’t you Chien? Where does all that anger and hatred come from? Relax!
I didn’t “bring up the trans topic”. Wouldn’t you have slammed me for not being inclusive if I had omitted that category?
You are an expert in making people ‘wrong’, it seems.
And don’t worry yourself about any Deep State. There’s no sign of that anywhere.
Whatever age you are, if you want to stick a tattoo there, above your arse, and you think it’s classy, go for it. If other people don’t think it is tasteful, they are entitled to their view. There is no need for all this spite and enmity. What’s the point of that? It’s a fact that such a tattoo in such a place is most common among women who fall within a certain age group. Is that so surprising? A trend emerges. people follow it, and then the trend recedes and those who followed it grow old together.
For the record, personally, I don’t admire tattoos there, but, fortunately, I don’t have one; nor do I have to look at one.
Live and let live.
I mean… The dude asking the question got the info he required. You people just can’t seem to shut the fuck up!
Let gybones be gybones and watch the water under the fridge, slowly ebb.
Fuck. Did I start the odd anger theme again? Just wanted to reflect on cultural phenomena, as you do (says Lemmy). Please don’t let it go into allround bashing again. And no – just shutting the fuck up seems dumb as well to me.
But I agree – web forums are usually not the place for intellectual high-flying. Sad though.
@ supernaut: I try to ask as polite as possible and with good intensions: Did you have learned anything in the last time, or would you do (I think, you know what I mean) all the same way? (okay, wrong topic, I know, but I´m not afraid of the shitstorm-troupers) :)
@theconscience: The trouble is: no matter how kindly you put such a question – and I know your question comes from a good place – those on the receiving end are likely to feel that you place yourself above them in some way, even though I know you don’t. It takes humility first to realise and then to admit that you have been tricked. Personally, I think it is nothing to be ashamed of. I saw many highly intelligent, decent, model citizens swallowing the lies – as many still do – while some real scoundrels saw through them. I certainly don’t make myself better or wiser than those who, in my opinion, were duped. I can also see why, once they have invested so much in the version of reality that was presented to them, their kneejerk reaction is to double down.
I hate the fact that it all comes with so much anger, and that they feel comfortable in treating the non-believers so atrociously. It is truly chilling to think what measures some of them would have supported. Their anger ought to be directed at those in whom they should have been able to feel justified in placing their trust.
I don’t know about this place, but I do see people around me who have learned a very hard lesson. I see others who suffer but do not suspect the cause. Still others have gone too soon. It’s all horrible, but fascinating at the same time.
@suntripper – thanks for „high flying“ :)
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