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AB Brussels will be in the ‘Box’, it’s the large room made smaller (850 cap)
Can’t tell you my source gentlemen, but it will soon be out on their site…
In random order, the ones I’ve listened to the most last year :
Sunn o))) – Monoliths & Dimensions
Wolves in the Throne Room – Black Cascade
David Sylvian – Manafon
Mulate Astatke – Story of Ethio Jazz 1965 -1975
Oren Ambarchi – Intermission 2000 – 2008
My personal top 5 is :
Blindfolded
Little Ricky Massenburg
Painting the Night Unreal
Kill Devil Hills
The Alchemyst
Reminds me of a TVshow Dead Kennedys once played in Belgium in 1980 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLo4BTc7uko
Quite hilariuos indeed!
could you please also send your prices to gv@abconcerts.be? Would be great! Thanks
@ Grendel
Hahaha, found it funny to read your post…. So you’re a video guy!
Cool, well indeed, hard to turn it off and enjoy the movie or watching TV…
I think we understand each other very well.
Glad to see you’re studying Physics too! I’m not, but I’ve had a lot of bagage since
doing lots of technical stuff…
I perfectly understand your scepticism on the New Age kind of thingee going on with this Diamond.
Nothing to be ashamed of, but I kinda grew out of this scepticism myself by travelling to Asia a few times, experiencing a few ‘spiritual’ things, coîncidences in meeting people etc…. So I started reading ‘Tao of physics’ by Fritjof Capra, it”s about the parallels between the eastern cultures and ours. Metapfysics if you will. Really interesting stuff… You’ll notice that our most important western Physicians are actually saying the same as the great spiritual leaders in the Far East, but in different words.
I think MP is pretty spiritual too : the mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be lighted! How I love this sentence…
Sometimes I think everything is energy : sound, light,… It’s all frequencies we can capture with our senses
I guess it’s just a matter of training your senses and getting good at it. This will certainly light your fire!
Enjoy your job dude!
I hardly can watch television for the same reason as I can hardly listen to the radio by the way, too compressed!
F***ing Loudness War!
and for the record :
the other LP I’m raving ’bout now is called ‘Western Cultures’ by Henry Cow.
Anyone out there familiar with their work? Guess I had a bit of luck on finding this one on vinyl….
Any other recommendations? I guess you all get to know me a bit better by now since I’m writing books on this fanpage
@ Grendel :
I know the article about John Diamond isn’t about vinyl or CD’s, it’s even bigger, it’s about analog or digital sound!
He only tried to warn people for the long time FX of digitalised sound. I think he overdid it a bit myself of course, but I guess he just wanted to be heard…..
You also have to see this in history of recording. People were searching for a way to capture sound digitally. Did you think it was invented in 1 day by some dutch nerd in a lab?(excuse my language) It took years to develop the acceptable sample rate etc for the music to sound realistic enough compared to vinyl and tape since that were the only others to compare it to, consumer-wise that is…. Tape caused hiss and vinyl crackles and they both get worn out because there’s physical contact with the playheads.
Anyway, when he wrote it the A/D & D/A conversion wasn’t as good until now, so then it was really audible. Nowadays A/D & D/A’s are much better built, but still some people think there’s something missing.
He did this at the annual AES convention in NY. (AES = Audio Engineering Society)
That same year the Synclavier, Linn drum machine and Fairlight were announced at the AES which got a lot more attention.
It’s rather ironic that Diamond was on that some convention. The 3 instruments/sequencers were the highlights of a new digital era in sound engineering and recording/sampling… And they remain as legendary as a Les Paul guitar or a Korg MS10 for example
Anyway, if you want to know more about it, I suggest you read the book that I mentioned before. It has got a lot of great information on recorded music.
It’s only until now that most people start hearing the difference between vinyl and CD’s, and start wondering why. That’s when Diamond got back in the picture, and a few tests have proven him right already.
That’s why I mentioned his name in my previous message here. I found the article on the net after reading about him and was a bit raving about it… I told you I’m a sound engineer myself. I work mainly on live concerts with an analog desk, because I prefer an analog desk. I’m not saying there are no good digital desks. I’m just telling you I’d prefer an analogue to work with. There are cases where I prefer digital also, on tour with a full band on in-ears where they change a lot of instruments or something. Just because of the computer/memory inside the board.
By the way, do you have a record player? If so, do you regularly play vinyl?
If you were having an album on CD and a good-cut 200gr vinyl, which one do you listen to at home?
Just a few questions, I don’t want to make fun of you or anything like that. I’m not like that!
It’s just that I prefer vinyl anyday now when listening at home. I even stay at home to listen to vinyls!
But then again, I consider myself a bit of a freak regarding sound… I’m afraid I have to be that professionally and it took over my life. Music started out as a hobby and became my job, so after years of experience in Jazz, Classical, Rock, Punk, ….. I think I can finally say for myself that I’m probably hearing a lot better than most other people. It takes lots of years of training, mixing and recording to develop your ears, to get perfect ears… Guess I’m almost there… Maybe not?
And since I bought a record player again, me too I’ve noticed the difference between vinyl and CD.
I never listen to the radio, I can’t stand the compression they use to get programs on the air. I sold all my guitar amps and pedals and bought myself a Tiny Terror, and I listen to vinyls.
It’s funny or actually tragic from my point of view how you mention (sic) after Diamond mentioning music losing it’s true healing powers and will lower your life energy…
Don’t know, but I’m surely feeling different after listening to vinyl then as to a CD…. It has more life to it and apparently it gives me energy since I’m only sleeping 4 hours a night since I bought this goddamn thing!
A colleague of mine, to whom I posted the same article about Diamond, was really in it too. He’s also a guy only listening to vinyls and a musician….
And he wanted to call this John Diamond, because he was convinced that this was one of the reasons why so many kids were suffering from ADHD…. Maybe he overreacted too?
I wonder what you’re doing for a living? I don’t think it has anything to do with sound, am I right?
Listening to ‘The viking of sixth avenue’ while writing this… Has some of the best tunes ever
I would like to thank MP for this!
Just wanted to tell that I bought the reissue of ‘In the Court of the Crimson King’…
Had the original already, but it was getting a bit noisy in the soft parts (crackles), so I decided
to buy it brandnew. And it’s a red vinyl!
Also found a 180gr version of ‘Germfree Adolescents’ by X-Ray Spex last week, also one of the best albums ever IMHO.
If you never heard this one, buy it even without listening. Spent only 12 euro’s on that one! Brandnew!!
And right now I’m listening to COIL’s ‘Horse Rotorvator’, what an amazing album!
Jippie vinyl!
Getting back to vinyl also got me into reading about recording techniques and the history of recording…
I’m about to finish ‘Perfecting Sound Forever : the story of recorded music” written by Greg Milner
Maybe for audiophiles, vinyl lovers, musicians and sound engineers… or a combination, like me
There are qoutes from Abbey Road, Electrical Audio (Albini), Power Station, The Townhouse,… invention of stereo, vinyl, CD, magnetic tape…. Loudness Wars… excellent reading if you’re into this stuff! Or if you wanna know more about it. What is perfect sound? What are we all looking for?
Found out about a guy named John Diamond who protested heavily and gave readings back in 79 and 80 when the Compact Disc was pushed into the market. He didn’t win the war against Sony/Philips, but found this article on the net :
http://www.geocities.com/udauda@sbcglobal.net/Digital_Stress.html
So that’s why we prefer vinyl ladies and gentlemen
Listening to Oren Ambarchi ‘In the Pendulum’s Embrace’ out on Southern Lord Records.
Soundscape like album, pure analog low end with some guitars, bells,…
He’s also responsable for a few soundscapy stuff on some Sunn O))) releases
also very very slow and relaxing, almost healing (like Sunn O))) of course)
If you’re into ambient or something like Bohren & der Club of Gore, I’m sure you’ll love to hear this (on vinyl)
A friend of mine is a sound therapist and she fell in love with this immediately and wanted me to give her the record!!!
Aaaargh, women and music
For all you vinyl lovers out there :
Jesus Lizard will release a remastered version of their first 4 albums, which are great!
Remastering is done by Steve Albini (they still are his favorite band I guess, and they are touring again!)
Released with a download coupon at the end of september 09…
Read all about it here :
http://pitchfork.com/news/35570-jesus-lizard-reveal-reissue-details-tour/
Honestly, at first I was thinking ‘Oh, no vinyl only! Damn, what can I do?’ That is if you don’t own a record player of course, just like me.
Until now…
Guess what happened?
Was talking to a record company guy a few months ago…. He told me that within the next 2 or 3 years CD’s would dissapear!
New music will only be released on vinyl or on the net. If you want music digitally, you’ll have to download it, (or some put MP 3 download coupons with their vinyl reissues) and to make yourself comfortable, buy an MP3 player, beit an I-pod or something like that… Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got an 80GB Ipod and I adore just the fact to have 800 CD’s on it and still having space left! Makes wandering around in the city much more fun!
So record companies are only doing digital releases on the internet and if you really want to buy the album with the cover art etc., you’d have to buy the vinyl. Vinyls will also get cheaper by then. Nowadays you pay around 20 euro’s for the vinyl version, where a CD costs around 12?
But anyway, since I got the news that MP did a vinyl only release, I decided to buy a record player again. I did still have some vinyls left somewhere in the house, so maybe it would be nice to give these a listen again? And I couldn’t stand the fact not having the new MP album since I love this band. Maybe I should’ve taped it from a friend like back in the days?
Of course this brought back a lot of memories! And since I enjoyed it this much, I decided to buy the albums I liked the most in my collection (the ones I already have on CD) and new releases on vinyl, if I could find them….
Aha, a new hobby? Living in the centre of Brussels made it easy, a lot of 2nd hand stores stuffed with vinyl…
So I did a bit of shopping and already noticed that a lot of great stuff from the past is being reissued on vinyl. Has it always been like that? Or is it me that is noticing all this since I started looking for vinyls?
At first i thought it was a really really oldskool kind of thing to only listen to records instead of CD’s… and now I can’t stop doing it myself?!
The sound of vinyl is remarkably better than a CD. And I’m pretty sure everybody can hear the difference!
Especially in the low end… and it sounds more ‘open’ too!
But I really don’t wanna start a discussion around this topic.
If you’re happy listening to CD’s and MP 3’s, I’m happy for you!
I wish I could listen to that too without noticing that the sound isn’t really that good and a bit dull
I forgot this myself, (they started releasing CDs when I was a 10 year old?) if I couldn’t compare directly
But for now it’s vinyl only at home! For the rest of my days on earth!!!
I’ve spent way too much money on buying vinyls this last month, but had so much fun looking around in record stores.
Is this a midlife crisis? No, I’m only 34, a bit early for that no?
Actually I’d like to thank Motorpsycho a lot for doing the vinyl only release!
Really got me into listening to music again!
And it still keeps sounding better!
So my advise on this :
If you really like music and you dont own a record player, get one!!!!! I’m sure it would make you happier…
And if you have one already, I envy you
@jubalong : I second that with great pleasure
and if people are starting discussions on the digi release of COTF, I only have one answer
It’s the artist’s choice! And I also want to stress out that I adore the idea that they’re doing themselves and their
fans a big pleasure on their 20th anniversarry by recording @ Electrical Audio with Albini. It’s one big picture I think :
Albini, vinyl, 20th anniversary…
If you don’t get the big picture, maybe you’re not into music enough? If you are, you’d buy yourself or steal a record player and not start whining about a digital release…
It’s only my opinion
feel free to shout!
PS : last week I’ve noticed that there’s a reissue from ‘In the court of the Crimson King’,
I did’nt buy it because I already own the original
but I tought it was funny because I know it’s one of MP’s favorite albums
and it’s released on vinyl again the same week COTF was released
a coincidence?
Pretty sure that ‘Abendspaziergang’ (on ‘Walkin’ with J’ EP) is based on Kraftwerk’s ‘Morgenspaziergang’.
It’s on their ‘Autobahn’ album….
So now we already have :
The Almann Brothers Band – S/T
Blue Öyster Cult – Secret Treaties
Captain Beefhart – Stricktly Personal
Fripp and Eno – Evening Star
Grand Funk Railroad – Live Album
Grateful dead – Anthem of the Sun
Hawkwind – Doremi Fasol Latido
Joni Mitchell – Heijira
Kraftwerk – Autobahn
MC5 – High time
Sonic Youth – Confusion is Sex
The Steve Miller Band – Children of the Future
Sun Ra – Angels and Demons at Play
…. and still growing! Nice thread indeed
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