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Tusen takk, knoot & phoots! Funny stuff, norse interviews with norse subtitles – I'm finally getting a hang of the language
@ ffbernie: Thanks for the insight. I expected you not to use the MXDesk sound entirely, I know there sometimes is a strange mix of stuff on there. Combining audience Mics & mix seems to be the best possible solution.
As for DVDs "being so 2010": Vinyl is also so 1960s-80s, but some of us still love it (and even more these days, where you got almost unlimited digital audio access). The packing and the restrictions coming with the medium create a special value, believe me. For those who just want to connect and stream/screen, your great work is so much appreciated – but the results do deserve any extra praise they might get.
I support the Idea of a Bernie material DVD. As for the audio tracks: Bernie's vids have increased considerably in audio quality over the years. Just listen to those from 2018 & 19!
Wonder where you get the sounds from, Bernie! Just a lot of mics? Do you remix several sources/positions or did you probably even get mixing desk material the last times? Sounds brilliant in any case!
Quite unrealistic – you'd block the few remaining European vinyl printing plants with that
As much as it hurts selecting I'd opt for a more "realistic" 3-LP Volume, or better a still not completely unrealistic 4 LP Box with side lengths between 19 and 23 min.
Selection would then be as follows:
S.1:
The Jig Is Up
Granny Takes A Trip
Triggerman
S.2:
The Cuckoo
Ãœberpilgrim
S.3:
Starhammer (20 min. version)
S.4:
August (Cologne)
Song for A Bro (Cologne)
S.5:
Hogspin-Halleluwash
S.6:
Mountain (full blown)
S.7:
Psychotzar
The Tower
S.8:
For Madmen Only
Fool's Gold
Think I'll compile that for me anyway on CD, but an official vinyl version would be hog heaven!
A possible full 3 CD edition would then probably also include California, A Pacific Sonata, Mockingbird, The Crucible, Mad Sun and Black to Comm. Jeez!!!
The title presents itself: Of course "For Madmen Only!" Subtitle: Grandpa's European Trip
The first clips are up on Motorpsychodelicclips. Thanks a lot once again, Bernie! Great Work – as always.
Generally I liked the long long long pieces best – lots of space to explore. So the Berlin Hogspin-Halleluwash is one of my favourites, same as one of these two last German Starhmmers (Leipzig or Berlin). In comparison & hindsight I find the Cologne show rather dissappointing – although there was some good noodling at the start and a wonderful Fool's Gold at the end.
What about Whip that Brother / Song for a Ghost? Probably the Bremen one, but there were lots of other good versions on this tour.
The Crucible material doesn't develop much on a live record – it is great live material, but giving that it was probably recorded almost live in the studio there is not much difference apart from the various noise/freakout parts. Probably Psychotzar as an opener?
I would always swap that for The Cuckoo – rarely played on this tour but still awaiting a live relase. The Berlin version?
The Sonata should also find its place on the next possible RW record – so why not make it a triple one again?
And this was only the choice from the second leg of the Crucible tour…
edit: I forgot that brilliant Cologne August version – to be included!
@ TheOne FormerlyKnownAsDaniel
"Believe" has both effects on the vocals. For me the vocoder was always the more prominent one – but the song became famous for its autotune. So I think we both have a point
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/recording-cher-believe
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Mark: "It all began with a Korg VC10, which is a very rare, very groovy-looking analogue vocoder from the '70s, with a built-in synth, a little keyboard and a microphone stuck on top", he enthuses. "You must mention this, because SOS readers will love it — and I know, because I've been reading the mag for years!"
@ T.O.F.K.A.D.: Wasn't that a vocoder effect on Cher's "Believe"? Well – Neil Young had that used in a rather clumsy, but creative way back in 1982… Cher introduced a whole new thing though – the smooth machine sound – then still clearly recognizable as a technical manipulation, but these days wasting almost all the slimy musical trash most kids are listening today. I wonder if some of them have ever heard a recorded vocal without that kind of industrial musical straightjacket. But there you go – music is an industry more or less these days, and so you get industrially finetuned stuff, in most cases cheaply produced to satisfy dumb consumers – without inspiration, style or love for music. As long as the latter are still dominant – and with Motorpsycho they clearly are – I don't see a problem there with any effect creatively used.
I don't have a problem with MP autotuning their vocals. In the studio the whole process of mixing and balancing, let alone the huge number of possible audio effects is some kind of manipulation, which could either be regarded as cheating or as a special art form. Like most critics I tend to support the second view.
Live MP deliver rather complex musical structures – both instrumental and vocal-supported, that would extremely challenge any four- or morepiece band. In order to be able to concentrate on spontanity and improvisation I find it quite legitimate to use any help to avoid having to concentrate mainly on the vocals, even more so as the vocal delivery does not constitute the dominant element of MP music.
So autotuning vocals might even be the basis of MP playing free and adventurously. Let the vocals eat cake and hammer the instrumental stars for free!
Give 'em a little break, will ya? Four 2 1/2 hour shows in a row is quite something. In the end you get tired, and when you get tired you sometimes get very speedy or even hectic (paradox, but true). Probably one explanation for yesterday's almost supersonic speed riffing in Cologne. One more show tonight and they'd probably dissolve – Psychedelic Motors Disappear In Smoke!
@Punj: I was there, probably not very far from you in the crowd in the middle of the pit, but didn't spot you either. Was probably a bit stunned after a 4 hour tour through the Cologne record stores with a very talkative friend
. Went directly from the last shop to the gig which gave me the rest – full blast in the pit downstairs, 10 meters direct blow from Bent's bass speaker. The sound must have been very good upstairs near the bar, that is behind mixing desk. Downstairs very loud and a little muddy for me, but that's maybe just my ears, worn down after years of MP concerts
Nothing to add to your praise of the gig – August jam was stellar, Snah reminding me of Ritchie Blackmore at the height of his powers.Hopefully there's a recording – would like to listen to the show once again in rather calm sourroundings.
Probable Pratchett prank (haha – ppp means something else to us, doesn't it?), so let's call it Assumed Pratchett Connection
The Light Fantastic is Pratchett's second novel in the Discworld series – btw.: isn't MP's next disc to be called "The World"? – ok, ok, back to topic: Together with its predecessor this book is rather not the one masterfully structured plot but a sometimes hectic combination of adventures that do both follow and satirize traditional fantasy adventure tales, introducing a few major and several minor characters that would play roles in the seemingly endless evolution of the Discworld series. Substitute fantasy with Rock'n'Roll and Pratchett with Motorpsycho and you will see the title is obviously quite fitting for this new collection.
Seems I have totally misunderstood the original post – as so often.
Whatever you mean brother: we love you! Hopefully marc is wrong as well…
WTF???
Another victim of a kundalini yoga cult? I hope, it's a love cult!
Free yourself from any religious bonds – even if they be Motorpsychedelic ones!
I must admit I nourished similar notions from time to time – not for any religion, cult, master, therapist or god, but for my own well-being and fearing to be trapped in an endless Motorpsychedelic loophole. But as long as the Norse heroes keep changing and I keep changing I'll keep on going! And if personal development and Motorpsychedelic path connect – all the better!
I respect your decision, brother – even if I don't share it!
