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Dear suntripper, dear fellow psychonauts,
Why are face masks designed with no respect for people with beards?
What if more of us were women? How would this thread look like? Or are most of us in fact females using male nicknames?
What is the footprint of all that plastic waste related to our fight against the virus?
So we are fighting the virus, right? Shouldn’t we learn to live with it in stead?
How would Charles Darwin view the pandemic and the way we deal with it?
All along in this thread I’ve been wondering. In times of extreme uncertainty, how come there are so many answers and so few questions?
I feel grateful for the decreasing infections, largely due to vaccination. Enormous respect for our medical fellow humans who are working so hard. I’d like to support the common good, show solidarity, see MP live again. Yet I have doubts about the vaccines that I regard as experimental for the time being and of unknown impact to my body. What should I do?
Why is the what-if question so difficult to spot on this thread? Imagine yourself, Johnny, Supernaut, the Conscience or any of us asking: what if it’s the other way around?
For instance: what if my doubts are unnecessary? Many say: the risk of taking the vaccine is far less than the probability of severe health problems when attracting corona. Others say: let go of your skepticism. Yes. Good points.
How come we so easily seem to dismiss another person’s opinion as a stereotype like binary, antivax, conspiracy, egoism? Is it because we are afraid, taking the easy way out, too filled up with preconceptions? What are we missing by not being a bit more open? Wouldn’t it at least be interesting to hear a story we haven’t heard before?
Punj said earlier in this thread he believes we are fucked. Here in Holland we keep thousands of animals stuffed with antibiotics in huge stables in order to supply our meat factories. Some Dutch are proud that our tiny country is one of the biggest agricultural exporters in the world. To protect the industry, once a contagious disease is found, we butcher all animals at risk in no time, by the hundreds of thousands.
Imagine we were the animals and the animals were us and they would treat us the way we treat them.
The virus is believed to have first emerged in the same bizarre meat-mass-consumption realm. Apart from our kind of handling of the symptoms of a perverted world, shouldn’t we also discuss the need for intrinsic health or even system change? Not on this forum please. Fair enough. In any case, at least it would bring us closer to our other common good since many of the Gullvåg lyrics are related to this topic.
Mankind likes to kill prophets. Jesus was only 33 years old. What if the virus were a mini-prophet, with a voice and an opinion of its own?
Are we fucked? Here’s an attempt by Nick Cave to say something meaningful.
Google translation:
Sizzling floating therapy at Motorpsycho. This was not a concert, but a space mission. The only goal that the show of the Norwegian trio Motorpsycho seemed to have on Sunday in a sold-out TivoliVredenburg was: to swing all spectators as far as possible outside the atmosphere. What felt like an endless journey towards weightlessness turned out to be an unparalleled rock show that lasted no less than two hours and fifty minutes. In short: mission accomplished. Motorpsycho has been in existence for thirty years. During that time, the excentrics from Trondheim released dozens of records on which they played at least as many styles. What started as grunge-like alto-metal gradually changed into dream pop, hip-rock, country, jazz, etc. In recent years the band has been floating in a multi-colored bubble of psychedelic (prog) rock. The average length of the songs grew exponentially, the number of tracks per record fell drastically: The Crucible, which was released this year, only has three. Live singer-bassist Bent Sæther and guitarist Hans Magnus Ryan turn out to be explorers who descend improvisingly into the deepest corners of their own notes and deliberately get lost there. Almost every song they derail halfway through, to completely turn it inside out, and then see where it ends. In this way the band explores the oeuvre down to the very fringes, from hard to ultra-soft. This sizzling floating therapy, that is what the psychonauts – as the Motor psycho fans tend to call themselves – have come to for. After almost three hours of booming guitar roar and intense near silence, they all landed nicely on their feet again. Rock Motorpsycho Heard: 19/5, TivoliVredenburg Utrecht Frank Provoost
Great review of the concert here (in Dutch):
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/05/21/zinderende-zweeftherapie-bij-motorpsycho-a3960890
Fueled by Motörhead, Clutch, Spidergawd, early Peppers, Soulwax, 7Zuma7, Randy Rhoads and Mahogany Rush, check out this lovely recent EP
Snah & Reine Victims of Rock
Paradiso is very much alive. I believe that the last time MP played the main venue was in 2010, HMF tour
One of the things I fail to understand is how continued (economic) growth in the long run could ever be consistent with the fact that our planet does not increase in size.
Unless from evolutionary perspective we accept that sooner or later our species will collapse.
What's striking to me is that there does not seem to be a single country that substantially explores this problem, let alone substantially transitions into the new balance that would be required. Yes, plenty of great initiatives on climate adaptation, plastic soup, eating animals, poverty reduction, sustainable entrepreneurship, etc., but in the end most likely futile as long as economic growth is perceived an axiom we cannot do without.
I'd be interested in Norman & Punj's views on this. Is any of us here familiar with the concept of doughnut economics?
Meanwhile, lets's not forget why we are here, so please do continue the much more interesting discussion on how Rush is inspired by Motorpsycho
One of the best books I have ever read is the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. As far as possible, it has made me understand the state of the world as it currently is, based on recent history and including the development of modern day geopolitics.
Wise & beautiful words Punj Lizard. You are a joy to read.
Thanks so much, wonderfully written!
Probably not a coincidence but fun to mention anyway: 577 backers!
Weirdo Canyon Dispatch with bits of MP:
http://roadburn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/WCD-2018-Friday.pdf
http://roadburn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/WCD-2018-Saturday.pdf
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