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Oh…i didn't catch him smoking the first one then. But i though i smelled some magic in the air….But ok. Strike two…you're out! That's fair!
Yep. He was somewhat of rebel throughout the show, bumping into people and genrally making an ass of himself. He even knocked me out of a trance during Into The Gyre. But i don't know if him and the magic fag smoker knew eachother. Kinda feel sad for the fag man tho. Eventhough it's a bullshit thing to do, and he shoud have known that he'd get busted, it looked like he was really enjoying the show, swaying back and forth with his eyes closed. But i guess he had it coming.
By the way; Did any of you catch the Taurus Crash? Or Bent singing so much out of tune, it became "in tune" during La Lethe? Not to criticise, but it was kinda funny!
All in all a good show with an ACE band, which could have been better if the sound had been…
Yeah…and the costumes were hilarious
Ok. I was probably abit harsh on my first post; it
Was a good night and i really enjoyed it, what i could
Hear atleast. Ps; Ståle sang the main lead on sharks
Which was kind of a surprise
Nice one
Shave off about 40 mins and they're right on the money. Too bad that they felt the need to put a reference to every god damn riff on the album. Fuck off ppl. Just cus something resembles somethhing made in the past, don't mean that you need to namedrop some band who made something similar 30+ years ago?, and make a big point about it! If the world were to follow your (the writer's) logic, then there would never be anything new out there for the public to sink their teeth into, cus you've already labled it this and that. MP borrow some vibes from here and there in their music, but when all comes to all they manage to put their own heart and soul into their creations, making their sound and music their own, regardless of what's already been done.
Short; Hail MP!, Fuck the name dropping and recognise this band for what it is; A force to be reconed with! Now where's that vocal tutor… :lol:
Ok one more thing….
You're making it sound like i'm bashing their music, which i'm certainly not doing. I agree with everything you're saying when it comes to the musical part of both their albums, shows and overall philosophy. From my standpoint it's purely a vocal issue, and will alyways be just that. But (again for me) it's come to a point where i find it almost embarrasing to listen to, and it ruins what could have been epic experiences when seeing them live (been to a number of shows now, and will see them in London). And the worst part is that i don't even find myself being harsh saying theese things. The reason being; When so many good bands out there manage to re-capture their studio music so overall well when they're playing live, it's just strange to see that MP can't seem to overcome this obsticle. I could have been more forgiving if Bent wrote "Na na na – i'm in love with a girl" lyrics set to a limited vocal ranged melody line. But bent really puts thought and passion into both his lyrics and melodies, and so i think it's pretty safe to say that he takes vocals and melody pretty much as seriously as the music when writing and recording albums. So why not live? Why settle for mediocre vocals live when every thing else is so damn good? I just don't get it…And don't tell me that it's because their music is too complex. I don't buy that for a second…
But just to clarify; I'm not demanding anything. I'm just saying that i find it strange, and abit irritating. In the end, you're probably right about them doing their thing like they've always done (thank god), and so they'll never bother to care about this. But i'm entitled to find it frustrating nevertheless. To shed some light on the thing, discuss, rant abit and then let it go. Cus in the end their overall music plus killer instrumental skills live make up for their vocal shortcomings. Though one can dream of a show where their vocals match the music in skill, can't one?
PS; I find it funny that you consider Dream Theater as "Music by Robots". Ok, i'm not that keen on the band, but i feel that they play with an equal amount of passion and determination as MP does nevertheless. They've just rehearsed more! So what you consider "robotism" i consider being almost inhumanly good based on the fact that they're taking it dead seriously….both live and on album!
@ Supernaut
To me, there's nothing wrong with expecting some skills from artists that have taken on vocal duties for 20 years, no matter how great their music is. To me, it's become such an irritating thing that i quietly wish that their next musical venture will be an instrumental one. I mean….they sound KILLER on albums, and so it's such a let down to go to a live show, and getting served sourball after sourball throughout the show.
Don't get me wrong….I love the band to death! I just hope that they focus abit more on the vocals for live shows in the future. Or stop setting the bar way too high for themselves on albums, and then bomb on stage…
PS: Their music isn't that much more demanding now then before if you think about it.
It's your choice to hate Geddy Lees vocals. But the point still stands. He really captures the flow and feel of his vocals on albums when playing live.
Quote:that townsend/artist line can very much be brought into the MP-vocal debate. entertainers hit the right notes but artists focus on expressing themselves. [
](yes i'm aware of the thousand examples that defy this simple statement but it's still a worthy thought
Horsecrap imo! Just look at Geddy Lee of Rush; Playing intricate basslines, keyboards, pedals ++ live , but he still manages to sing way better then our guys do. And if he's not an artist, then who is?
The bottom line is that one after 20+ years should be able to expect a better vocal preformance then what's being delivered these days. And the almost mind boggling thing about it all is that they actually sang way better in the past. What gives??!
You're right. When the sour notes hit, they really hit on this recording. But I agree on the Snah Vocals. He does a pretty good job. Perhaps that's why he's given more and more of the vocal duties. But Bent also can sing great if he really wants to. My bet is that he (they) just need a few more shows to really get into the material.
Ok so i sort of started this debate yesterday. And then and there i ment it, judging what i'd heard of the recording on my sound system. But after giving it another go on my headphones last night, i must say that perhaps i was a little harsh on the boys. There are certainly sour moments (Mutiny was quite appalling for one). But Snah actually sings quite good throughout the concert, saving it from total vocal failure. So it seems like he's really trying. Bent on the other hand sound uninspired at times. Shape up Bent!
Also, perhaps it's true what's been said earlier….that they're aware of their limitations regarding vocals, and just don't give a sh*t about that, and just focus on rocking out instead. Kind of sad if it's so. But if i had to choose between great vocals and monsterous musical technical skills, it'll always be the skills. It's just a dream of mine to have both. Just once
…and to focus further on the positive things about this gig; It sounds great musically. I really like their live rendition of the Unicorn, and can't wait to see them in London.
Oh yeah….Thanks a million Hovmod! Really Great Boot!!
