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Though this might not be helpful in this case: It is high time the announced MP division on archive.org will be institutionalized and opened. Hopefully everybody is then willing to contribute and to transfer as much stuff as possible from private archives, dime and motortrades. I’m confident though.
@ Rolf: It appears to me this is a group of users per collection/band, as it says “volunteer FANS, who have proven to be in line with the spirit of THIS archive”. Who choses them or how you become one is beyond my knowledge though.
@ Rolf:
Beside/beyond uploading stuff yourself it would probably mainly be encouraging other tapers to upload stuff and manage the MP archive department, i.e. setting up a few rules, if needed, and monitoring uploads. Keep it as open as possible and share the uploading task as broadly as possible.
I would quite like to engage in this having some experience in platform and content management, but I have to protect myself from my own idealism sometimes (danger of burnout, health issues). So please forgive me if I add my clever advises but do not share the hard work…
Seems to be a big task – uploading videos & live recordings, managing access and supervising the community. Probably we could find a team of 2-3 people who will engage in this, authorization from the band provided. Any volunteers?
Those already feeding the DIME and Motortrades communities seem predestined for that job imho – probably give up the odd and increasingly non-working beloved old MPT platform instead?
Fuck. Did I start the odd anger theme again? Just wanted to reflect on cultural phenomena, as you do (says Lemmy). Please don’t let it go into allround bashing again. And no – just shutting the fuck up seems dumb as well to me.
But I agree – web forums are usually not the place for intellectual high-flying. Sad though.
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You don’t look so young either, chien d’espace – I fear you might be an old white guy soon as well ;-)
Fuck – I hate those cheap classifications by age and peer group. Probably and excuse to avoid dealing with the deeper analysis of things. But maybe that’s what I’m doing with the tattoo phenomenon? Wondering…
As for lower class people: I’d sell my grandmother for a cheap pun, so no real insult meant. On the other hand I always like to muster all the arrogance and intellectual snobism available to despise obvious stupid mass behaviour and individual stupidity – which mostly isn’t a question of class, gender, race, age etc… Not that I consider tattoos just that. As for the individual: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. As a collective phenomenon though it is kind of unpersonal and subject to my – and any other person’s – interpretation.
And the latter has lead me to the observation, that tattoos have changed or change with the age of the bearer or the era he’s living in respectively. While the rediscovered tribalism of tattoos isn’t a new thing (therefore the word “tribal”), the motives and imagery obviously are subject to a kind of evolution in a socio-cultural (and age) context. And I specialize both in digesting imagery and analyzing their cultural relevance, so please allow me some stupid fake arrogance in this matter ;-)
You can wear your tattoos where you want – like your clothing or no clothing or whatever – but you can’t avoid other people judging and evaluating cultural phenomena, whether this is clever or not. You’re free to be, but always subject to closest scrutiny by others. Such is life!
(Speaks the central scrutinizer…)… only that the middle-aged “Arschgeweih” isn’t that smooth looking anymore, and the back’s usually much bigger ;-)
Nowadays kids have their favourite dream home idyl tattooed on their necks. Jeez – in every dream home a heartache…
Though it is a substantial part of public MP pattern recognition and a nice symbol if you release it from the tattoo context, the tribal is, like any tattoo – just “Unterschichtenmalerei” in the end. The pun just works in German, sorry. Something like “lower level painting” adressing both technique and target group. I’m not too fond of tattoos – except probably those on Bents arm, moving while he’s playing bass. Working in a Rock’n’Roll context, but as a mass phenomenon? No thanks…
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@ Punj_Lizard:
Why don’t you use the contact information at MP’s Website to mail them directly? There is even a phone number for booking contact. Or did you already try?Vintage VU!
@ suntripper: thanks for the vid – a very thorough and honest analysis. Though I’m not supporting all of the guys conclusions (but most of them), I am impressed by his reflected and careful thinking and his hard efforts not to fall into any populist traps. Honestly – this guy could speak for me, nourishing a somewhat similar disappointed love for England.
As psychonauts we of course now the reasons for the downfall of the UK: not enough Motorpsycho concerts there! Or is it just the other way round?
Thanks a lot. Phil deserves any praise he can get – what a bass player!
Anyone with a free account can upload media to the Internet Archive. It says so on the archive’s info page:
https://archive.org/about/I guess that the administrator of a group is responsible for starting that group and deleting stuff that does not comply with the regulations of archive.org and the group in question.
Most likely it is up to the group administrator to mark the uploads that are not for download (i.e. only streaming).
As far as I know there would have least to be two departments/branches of a Motorpsycho group – one within the archive’s “Live Music Archive” and one within the video department. But I guess it is possible to collect all the material in the “live music archive” section as well, audio and video alike, as it is (almost) all concert recordings. I think I have seen a similar procedure in the Grateful Dead group as well.
Anyway – that proceedings would save you from having to upload all the stuff on your own. Probably another group administrator can be found, who is responsible to execute the wishes of the band, should problems arise. Would save you a lot of time, but make you a “simple” uploader though ;-)
Probably there will be no Dutch dates due to receding interest – but I think that’s unlikely. More likely MP adapt their announcement policy to the vividness of their audiences. Reportedly the Dutch audience is rather mellow (due to certain substances, I guess). But then Italy should be announced first ;-)
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