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Agreed, the Cologne concert the day before was very good, and better than Bizarre setlist-wise and playing-wise.
Cologne had "Theme de Yoyo", "Sinful, Wind-borne", Upstairs-Downstairs, and "Pills, Powders + Passion Plays", while Bizarre had "Nothing To Say". The "Supertristano/Black To Comm"-segment was longer in Cologne.
There were also a few other very apparent differences:
Club vs festival (although, Cologne was part of Popkomm)
Devoted audience vs casual
Indoor vs outdoor
Nighttime spot vs daytime spot (in fact both concerts were played within less than 24h)
Air condition vs sun/30° C
1,5h vs 1h
Cologne was also filmed, at least parts of it. Together these two concerts could serve as a very good illustration of the different extremes band and audiences alike can experience from just one concert to the next, and also help explain some of the reasons for being a Psychonaut!
Yes, for some reason it has grown on me over the years. Bizarre because of the huge stage, the hipster horn section, the erratic setlist and the sitting audience waiting for KoЯn. And wonderful for the same reasons, plus the music is well played and the whole thing is well filmed. I get the same kind of pychedelic feeling as when watching vintage stuff from the 70s. Maybe I should have written "wonderfully bizarre"…
@ Punj Lizard – Thanks! Well, after all it is a Bernie's Basement video, so I speculate that he filmed the whole concert, like he uses to. Just imagine a Bernie's Basement series of LPs with Blue-rays included… What a treasure that would be… It could be its own series, or part of the RW series. Oh boy, if only I was in charge of this! You'd see one RW from each tour, plus (as) complete (as possible) archive releases in a separate series on a regular basis. The Norwegian National Broadcasting company NRK must (hopefully) still have all their radio recordings stored away somewhere, as the release of Oslo March '97 might indicate (AaDAP box). I would start with Roskilde '93 and and Oslo Sentrum Scene '94, both of which are mind-blowing. Then go on to Rome '94, which was recorded by radio and filmed by audience. Should be possible to restore, and would have been a natural addition to the Timothy's box, just like the great Groningen '93 dvd included in the Demon Box 2014 reissue. So here my series would rectify that omission. Then I'd go back to NRK with Oslo March '96, Stavanger '98, and then dive into the recordings from Swedish National Radio (SR) – I think they at least recorded them in '98 and '00. From NRK there is also Roskilde '99, Oslo '01, as well as Øyafestival '06, which is a Blue-ray waiting to happen (BH/BC reissue material?!). This is only from the top of my head, there is probably stuff I forget – oh yeah, that wonderful and bizarre Bizarre Festival '02 filmed by Rockpalast would become an instant classic as well. And then there is probably stuff we never heard about, just waiting to blow our minds and budgets, should Someone decide to grace our humble lifes with it…
RW5 – Which concerts?
We already know the origins of Sleepwalking+Lacuna/Sunrise, Manmower (video here), and Köln/Un Chien. Left to figure out is Ship of Fools and Taifun.
I have checked against surfaced audience sources from the fall tour.
Turns out Ship of Fools is from Leipzig. Maybe they knew it was the one they were looking for, maybe they stumbled upon it while going back for Lacuna/Sunrise. This is the third time Conne Island and Leipzig is represented on a RW. The Other Other Fool on RW1 is from Leipzig, as is The Bomb-Proof Roll & Beyond on RW4. Must be something in the water!
Now, as you might have noticed, Taifun begins with the outtro of Ship of Fools.
It was played directly after SoF during eight concerts:
Amsterdam, Oct 24.
Sint Niklaas, Oct 26.
Zwolle, Oct 28.
Zagreb, Nov 2.
Livorno, Nov 4. – No
Cologne, Nov 8. – No
Leipzig, Nov 9. – No
Trondheim, Dec 9. – No
Audience sources of four of them have surfaced, and it is neither of them. This leaves us with four possible concerts, as listed above. If I had to bet, I would place my money on Sint Niklaas based on the assumption that they found this one while going back for the extraordinary version of Manmower. It also makes sense from a mixing point of view. (Fewer sources to prepair and combine).
Ship Of Fools – Conne Island, Leipzig, Nov 9. 2017
Sleepwalking – Conne Island, Leipzig, Nov 9. 2017
Lacuna/Sunrise – Conne Island, Leipzig, Nov 9. 2017
Manmower – De Casino, Sint Niklaas, Oct 26. 2017
Köln – Stollwerk, Cologne, Nov 8. 2017
Un Chien d´Espace – Stollwerk, Cologne, Nov 8. 2017
Taifun – De Casino, Sint Niklaas, Oct 26. 2017?
Anyone here who does not need the 2CDs/Blueray, and who would want to sell it for a modest price similar to the price such a release would have, had it been released separately? I ask because of a special situation. Any help will be greatly appreciated, also just the CDs including cover.
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Someone saw Ship of Fools and decided to film the rest of the concert. The trio on fire in Russia!
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Qwck: A clarification, in case I was unclear: At Burg Herzberg they start playing at 00:45. The previous sets there have been around 90-100 minutes.
ThorEgil: That would count as a club concert, indeed! I would definitely go see it if I could.
Qwck, if you are made of money, go see them in Molde. It is a good festival, I guess it will be indoors, and that they get a good, not too short slot there. I was there in 2002, great experience.
I myself prefer club concerts, so I will see them in Düsseldorf. I would not worry too much about the sound there. I have been there a couple of times, and I just move around a bit until I find a good spot. You should do the same. There is always good sound somewhere in a room (sound center) which you find by looking at the PA and noticing where it is pointing. Where the sound from the two speaker towers meet will usually be the best place to be. Also look for the sound booth. It is most often in sound center, as long as it is not placed at one of the sides or too far back.
I would also have liked to see the Burg Herzberg concert, but with a 130 Euro ticket combined with camping and a time slot of 00:45 in the night I opt out this time.
June 15, 2018 at 10:15 in reply to: When it comes one day to the L.T.E.C , P-thyme and I.A.L.C Special Editions.. #33019They indeed learned this the hard way through the Voices of Wonder experience, where they had signed the copyrights over to VOW.
After Demon Box they started publishing all their music through their own company Motorpsychodelic Tunes in order to keep their copyrights. As far as I understand they use licensing deals. A licensing deal usually limits the release for either a certain amount of copies, pressings or time, or a combination hereof, as well as for territory, so that the owners always keep control over their work and can take their business elsewere after the end of the deal, should they want to.
Their first releases with this model were the Wearing Yr Smell EP (Psychobabble 001) and Timothy's Monster (Psychobabble 002), both on Stickman in Europe, while in Norway TM was licensed to Harvest, an EMI sub-label. The next many records were licensed to Sony in Norway, until they changed for Rune Grammofon.
Speculation: This is probably why their records sometimes are out of print for a long time. The band need to initiate a new deal or prolong an existing deal each time a licene has come to its end.
At some point we are bound to end up here (if not MSG, so elsewhere). Some of you might want to start saving up. :idea:
I was in the first row too, just in front of Snah. Sound there was good, as we mostly heard the sound from the backline, which was rich, warm and pleasantly loud. I could hear Reine through the PA, and seeing him helped a lot. Then I could tell that he was actually playing a lot that was audible, for instance some mellow mellotron in Dream Home and a ferocious guitar solo in August, to mention but a few. It was probably hard to tell from further back in the room, though. Reine will play the upcoming Benelux dates.
Jamming highlights: Dream Home, August, Intrepid Explorer (seemed re-arranged somehow), Starhammer (skronk territory), Spin Hush Spin, H Mac > Back To Source, Manmower, The Tower.
Thanks all for an unforgettable day in Oslo! Just perfect in every way.
Thanks, Devotional, you are absolutely right. Manmower added. The Sonata is there, just written as on setlist.
Bartok
Dream Home
On a Plate
August
Cuckoo
Intrepid
Starhammer
Spin w/Hush snippet
Malibu
H Mac > Back to Source
Manmower
Sol på Sunnan (not played)
Ship of Fools
Taifun
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Un Chien (not played)
The Tower
2h 35
Wunderbar!
1999-2002 must be the most well-documented period we have, audience recordings-wise. The band reached their all time high in popularity during this period, and they were very active, touring a lot.
I suggest you divide it into smaller, chronological portions for maximum listening pleasure.
1999 can be divided into before and after Baard Slagsvold joins.
Before Baard joins:
The trio pretty much continues the mood of the '98 tours. The core of the set is drawn from RW1, while darker songs not on RW1, like Evernine, Rad. Freq. 38.9 and Heartattack Mac, are exchanged for the new and up-tempo rock songs of Big Surprise, Heartbreaker, High Time, Star Star Star, and Glow. Step Inside from Demon Box gets a remarkable remake, and The Witch (The Rattles) is the new cover song of the spring tour. Towards the end of the summer tour we even get a tasting of Song for a Bro' and Tristano.
Recommended listening:
1999-04-14 Drammen. Has Heartbreaker, High Time, The Witch, Big Surprise, Step Inside, Glow.
1999-05-07 Eindhoven. Has a 45 min Un Chien, the longest documented to date.
1999-06-30 Übach-Palenberg. Has Song for a Bro'-> Hogwash-> Tristano!
Additional listening:
1999-04-25 Braunschweig. Has far-out stand-alone Superstooge, Star Star Star.
1999-05-12 London. The best sounding audience recording from the tour. Safe setlist.
1999-07-03 Roskilde Festival. FM broadcast. 1 hour, rock power!
After Baard joins:
Back to quartet for the first time in four years, the band is heading in a new direction yet again, more pop and jazz and less droning. At least on record, and also live, at least to begin with. Their palette of styles of jamming is broadened with inspiration from early 70's American rock as well as jazz and even African-derived rhythms.
Baard is presented to the Norwegian audiences during five concerts in October (Oslo x2, Trondheim, Bergen x2). The revamped setlists are a ménage à trois of new songs (The Other Fool, Song for a Bro', In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (Allman Brothers Band), Tristano), most of the RW1 songs (Un Chien, The Wheel, You Lied, Black to Comm, Vortex Surfer), and a handful of old classics not heard in a while (Plan #1, All is Loneliness, The Nerve Tattoo, Manmower).
Recommended:
1999-10-15 Oslo. Has Song for a Bro', The Other Fool, In Memory of Elizabeth Reed, Un Chien.
Additional:
1999-10-23 Bergen. Rough sound, but very high jam factor. Psychonaut incl. Jin Go La Ba is unique and worth the price of admission alone. It's also interesting to hear how quickly Baard settles in and puts his mark on the music.
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